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The person in question has no financial dealings within the company - and having worked and been a bank manager for 9 years I think I know more about finance then you!!
With regards to passenger numbers - I know for a fact that they have been full, hence the need for a Jetstream 31!!
I also do not just " hire aircraft " from anyone !!!
Blackpool is a great airfield, but they are so many people waiting to stab people in their backs!
P.S Please do not talk finance to myself, I know more then you can possibly imagine!!!
BA
The person in question has no financial dealings within the company - and having worked and been a bank manager for 9 years I think I know more about finance then you!!
With regards to passenger numbers - I know for a fact that they have been full, hence the need for a Jetstream 31!!
I also do not just " hire aircraft " from anyone !!!
Blackpool is a great airfield, but they are so many people waiting to stab people in their backs!
P.S Please do not talk finance to myself, I know more then you can possibly imagine!!!
BA
That has to rank as one of the most unbelievably arrogant postings I've read on PPrune for some time. Barmy Army's level of defensiveness only serves to make me question why he had a change of vocation if he was such a wonderful bank manager with a tremendous grasp of finance.
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No need to get over excited Barmy, you are getting very defensive old boy. I’m pleased that you have manage to conquer the world of finance, and a bank manger for 9 years, that is very well done. However if you are honestly trying to tell me that RM is not involved in any financial dealings of BWNA you really are trying to pi*s in my wellies and tell me it’s raining. That is just utter cr@p and you know it, everyone at the airfield knows it is his baby and he is pulling the strings, he’s just got someone else to front the operation.
I agree Blackpool is a great airfield, I have been flying there for many years and I can assure you I am not trying to stab anyone in the back. Unfortunately for the murgster he upset a few people (not me I hasten to add) with his antics, I just hope the J31 happens for them and they can make it pay, they are not cheap machines to run!
Just an aside, if you are as condescending to me in your next post I will be far less forgiving in my response, so just mind those p’s and q’s!
I agree Blackpool is a great airfield, I have been flying there for many years and I can assure you I am not trying to stab anyone in the back. Unfortunately for the murgster he upset a few people (not me I hasten to add) with his antics, I just hope the J31 happens for them and they can make it pay, they are not cheap machines to run!
Just an aside, if you are as condescending to me in your next post I will be far less forgiving in my response, so just mind those p’s and q’s!
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Interesting comments from you all – thank you
My previous post was out of character and apologise for any offence
Looking at the issue sensibly, I thought the CPG (Consumer protection Group) of the CAA would ensure customers are safe
All new airlines now have to produce a business plan for the next 24-48 months, in this plan they have to demonstrate they can survive without any income for 3 months and satisfy the CAA by way of a bond
This bond would and does depend on the scale of operation
The CAA would also check the business “ethics” of the company and post holders
Once they are happy they will then issue an AOC
Has this indeed happened with BNWA, I would hope so because these are the type of issues, which have stopped airlines recently??
Wingspan, I do know where your coming from and I can relate it to Pheonix Night's when Brian Potter puts Mr Sinclair as the front man
I just wish everyone success in any venture they do, because Blackpool would benefit
Once again apologies for my outburst
Cheers
BA
My previous post was out of character and apologise for any offence
Looking at the issue sensibly, I thought the CPG (Consumer protection Group) of the CAA would ensure customers are safe
All new airlines now have to produce a business plan for the next 24-48 months, in this plan they have to demonstrate they can survive without any income for 3 months and satisfy the CAA by way of a bond
This bond would and does depend on the scale of operation
The CAA would also check the business “ethics” of the company and post holders
Once they are happy they will then issue an AOC
Has this indeed happened with BNWA, I would hope so because these are the type of issues, which have stopped airlines recently??
Wingspan, I do know where your coming from and I can relate it to Pheonix Night's when Brian Potter puts Mr Sinclair as the front man
I just wish everyone success in any venture they do, because Blackpool would benefit
Once again apologies for my outburst
Cheers
BA
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I believe that if BNWA are going to operate a J31 they will not need to go thru the CPG financial fitness model as they will require a Class B Operating Licence, not a Class A, which has the requirement for 3 months operation without income, 24 months business plan etc.
For a Class B all they would need would be to prove EU ownership of the Company & adequate insurance for the aircraft, then the CAA would give them the OL. They would, of course, also have to go thru the CAA SRG process to get an AOC.
Let's hope that they are not going to try the "ticket provider" route that Euromanx has been using, it certainly confuses the punters!
For a Class B all they would need would be to prove EU ownership of the Company & adequate insurance for the aircraft, then the CAA would give them the OL. They would, of course, also have to go thru the CAA SRG process to get an AOC.
Let's hope that they are not going to try the "ticket provider" route that Euromanx has been using, it certainly confuses the punters!
