what's happening at Azzurra?
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Yes, destination Monastir, Tunisia. Apparently reason is for storage reasons untill they are picked up by Thomas Cook.
Quite weird though, because until some time ago, an executive 727 based in Monastir used to stay long term in Malta during long periods of no use. Malta must have since then put up its long term parking rates substantially!
An Air Malta press release reported in the Maltese press explains that Azzurra's 7 Avro RJs were repossed by Air Malta, (and not by the owners), due to lease payment defaulting by Azzurra. This was to counter an Azzurra statement that quoted their new CEO saying the aircraft were not comensurate to their needs.
http://www.airmalta.com/page.jsp?id=3170&siteid=1
Was glad to see an Azzurra 737-700 operating a flight to/from Las Palmas las Monday. Apparently it is the only aircraft in the fleet right now.
Also, on the notice board of the spotter's terrace in Manchester, a list of forthcoming aircraft movements lists that Azzurra has cancelled summer charters to 5 Greek destinations. I wonder if these contracts have automaticaly been passed on to the Air Malta aircraft now based there?
Quite weird though, because until some time ago, an executive 727 based in Monastir used to stay long term in Malta during long periods of no use. Malta must have since then put up its long term parking rates substantially!
An Air Malta press release reported in the Maltese press explains that Azzurra's 7 Avro RJs were repossed by Air Malta, (and not by the owners), due to lease payment defaulting by Azzurra. This was to counter an Azzurra statement that quoted their new CEO saying the aircraft were not comensurate to their needs.
http://www.airmalta.com/page.jsp?id=3170&siteid=1
Was glad to see an Azzurra 737-700 operating a flight to/from Las Palmas las Monday. Apparently it is the only aircraft in the fleet right now.
Also, on the notice board of the spotter's terrace in Manchester, a list of forthcoming aircraft movements lists that Azzurra has cancelled summer charters to 5 Greek destinations. I wonder if these contracts have automaticaly been passed on to the Air Malta aircraft now based there?
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Yes Robin, Azzurra UK will most probably become KM, and rightfully so. Mr. Palmonella, very well known as a gentleman who keeps his word, has now swallowed back all he said about RJ. He is on his knees begging KM for the RJ's, yet KM (once bitten twice shy) has decided not to fall in the trap again. So, the gentleman is saying that it is KM's fault that ZS is in such a turmoil. What an honorable person. Thank you Mr. Palmonella for all your efforts in saving Air Littoral and Azzurra. Your efforts are appreciated by hundreds of people. You should apply for Chairman Airmalta, dear Mr. Palmonella.
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To me it sounds like Air Malta should buy another 1.5% in Azzurra and get back into the driving seat!!
What is the latest at Azzurra Italy? What are the latest promises? Are all the workforce still on the books? I really hope that it works out for you guys.
What is the latest at Azzurra Italy? What are the latest promises? Are all the workforce still on the books? I really hope that it works out for you guys.
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That could sound good, yet ZS has such an enormous deficit (created by Palmonella) that KM will find itself another toqba kbira. Most staff have already found jobs in other companies, or in the process of. A320 pilots have also made some arrangements, even though nobody has given resignation as yet. (I confirmed yesterday) We have not seen salaries since December.
Ahna biss tfajna ir rizenja.
F'mejju ZS ta Man tigi kollha KM, imma hawnhekk futur m'hawnx. Il kumpanijja sa tghalaq f'lahhar tax xaghar.
As for the situation here..... operations department seems like obitorju. Bout a flight per day, when we're riding high! Palmonella said that he has to sack people.
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Ahna biss tfajna ir rizenja.
F'mejju ZS ta Man tigi kollha KM, imma hawnhekk futur m'hawnx. Il kumpanijja sa tghalaq f'lahhar tax xaghar.
As for the situation here..... operations department seems like obitorju. Bout a flight per day, when we're riding high! Palmonella said that he has to sack people.
Best regards ROB
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Avroliner said " You should apply for Chairman Airmalta, dear Mr. Palmonella."
what about a candidation as a ministro del consiglio??? looks like they are two of a kind!
Anyway let's wait until the end of this month, for now...some bad or good new should arrive!
what about a candidation as a ministro del consiglio??? looks like they are two of a kind!
Anyway let's wait until the end of this month, for now...some bad or good new should arrive!
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This morning started injunction to pay for Jan, Feb, part of March and national insurance contribution, not yet paid since November.
Everything is in the hands of the lawyers, but there still are two or three steps before claiming bankrupt, but I think the direction is that.
Last a/c has been confiscated yesterday, but some flights are operated with a/c from other Companies (hope they ask money before...
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Mr Palmonella declared that Jan's salary will be paid on monday...as long as I don't live in a fairy tale , I don't belive it, anyway they got 40 days to pay, then the second step of the case will automatically start.
In Italy law times are very very long, so don't expect a quick resolution.....anyway the workers are moving.
Press and television (only local tv for now, tele 55) are spreading the new, and other press conferences are supposed to be done in the next few days.
well if anyone has a Company that wants to lead to bankrupt, now knows a specialist in these affairs.....
Everything is in the hands of the lawyers, but there still are two or three steps before claiming bankrupt, but I think the direction is that.
Last a/c has been confiscated yesterday, but some flights are operated with a/c from other Companies (hope they ask money before...
)Mr Palmonella declared that Jan's salary will be paid on monday...as long as I don't live in a fairy tale , I don't belive it, anyway they got 40 days to pay, then the second step of the case will automatically start.
In Italy law times are very very long, so don't expect a quick resolution.....anyway the workers are moving.
Press and television (only local tv for now, tele 55) are spreading the new, and other press conferences are supposed to be done in the next few days.
well if anyone has a Company that wants to lead to bankrupt, now knows a specialist in these affairs.....
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Sorry to hear that Skunkie. I saw ZS's 737-700 D-AG?Y in Berlin a couple of days ago, and I figured that its been repossed by Germania as well. The end looks near my friend. Hope not of course, or at least you get taken over by another company with proper management. Buona fortuna.
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Thanks a lot Robin, think I won't fly anymore (13 years are too much ) but I hope to remain close to the airport , aircrafts and all their charm! Hope also for a lot of colleagues, hope they will find a good way to go along
anyway I'll keep informed as much as I can whoever is interested in this topic, as I think things will go on for loooong long time!!!!!!
BRGDS
well another thing Robin...not for sure, the 737/700 should be repossesed by the leasing society as Pembroke gave an ultimatum. They needed the two a/c for Maersk who apparentely were willing to pay all debts and even the "C" maintenence.......quite a miracle!!!
hope Maersk crew won't be treated as Azzurra air's ones...at least....let them know what is going to happen in their company not only the day they declare (finger cross) bankrupt!!!
What I find really amazing is that all this initiation, the choice of Lawyers etc is all done by Cabn Crew and Tehnicians (think they are in an even worst situation than C/C....with AZ redundancy payments, it will be very hard for them to find work....) while the pilot ( not the Maltese who will go back KM) are in a stall situation, only chatting, but no action!!!! I know there is not a structure as could be Alpa, but now they are all in the same situation....what's the problem to find an accord....not every single one will be satisfied, I know, but I never saw such lack of organization....at this point I cannot think they fear to compromise their carreer....they are fighting for their rights in full legality!
Let's smile and wait for better times..... It happened to me 12 years ago and I'm still here fighting......I'm worst than weeds!!!!!
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) but I hope to remain close to the airport , aircrafts and all their charm! Hope also for a lot of colleagues, hope they will find a good way to go alonganyway I'll keep informed as much as I can whoever is interested in this topic, as I think things will go on for loooong long time!!!!!!
BRGDS
well another thing Robin...not for sure, the 737/700 should be repossesed by the leasing society as Pembroke gave an ultimatum. They needed the two a/c for Maersk who apparentely were willing to pay all debts and even the "C" maintenence.......quite a miracle!!!
hope Maersk crew won't be treated as Azzurra air's ones...at least....let them know what is going to happen in their company not only the day they declare (finger cross) bankrupt!!!What I find really amazing is that all this initiation, the choice of Lawyers etc is all done by Cabn Crew and Tehnicians (think they are in an even worst situation than C/C....with AZ redundancy payments, it will be very hard for them to find work....) while the pilot ( not the Maltese who will go back KM) are in a stall situation, only chatting, but no action!!!! I know there is not a structure as could be Alpa, but now they are all in the same situation....what's the problem to find an accord....not every single one will be satisfied, I know, but I never saw such lack of organization....at this point I cannot think they fear to compromise their carreer....they are fighting for their rights in full legality!
Let's smile and wait for better times.....
It happened to me 12 years ago and I'm still here fighting......I'm worst than weeds!!!!!Happy night and dream in colors
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Well....think rightnow everyone knows the bad fortune Azzurra air encountered in the last year and a half.
It's the beginning of the end.
After the injunction of payment, and obviously no payment arrived (really another pay packet was in our pigeon hole....but no money.....)
This morning ALL Cabin Crew and ALL technicians demonstrated their rights, first blocking Terminal 1 area, then moving to the offices of the company to meet that s.o.b. Palmonella. He refused to come out, first asserting he was not there, then (as long as police was there, also the criminal police) he came out and told that he paid.....yes he paid starting from the lower salary, making the names of people who should have been paid -who was there and ask him to phone to their banks and verify the transaction, never happened!!!!! - Police was ready with smoke bombs and baton in case things went worse...fortunately they didn't need!
The Province of Varese, which is quite rich, proposed to finance the whole thing , just if they had an industrial plan -as they recently did for other two companies, not aeronautical, but in great crisis - but..THERE IS NO TRACE OF A RAG OF A PLAN!!!!!
Our darling Palmonella remained without word and didn't want to do any declaration more...He just said that from sept. up to now he didn't see any money ( logical...all put in someone else account, if not spended!!!)....our social security contribution has not been paid since Nov. and not even the tax for ENAC for our licences has been paid.
Now he has 40 days starting from 5th Mar. to rearrange things ( utopia) then petition in bakruptcy will start.
I wonder when we'll see again at least some of our money.....
Azzurra has no plane anymore, sometimes they fly renting a/c from unmentionable company (hope also the crew).
The worst could have been happened..happened.
Hope our efforts to advertise the situation will be useful...unless....IN GOD WE TRUST!
It's the beginning of the end.
After the injunction of payment, and obviously no payment arrived (really another pay packet was in our pigeon hole....but no money.....)
This morning ALL Cabin Crew and ALL technicians demonstrated their rights, first blocking Terminal 1 area, then moving to the offices of the company to meet that s.o.b. Palmonella. He refused to come out, first asserting he was not there, then (as long as police was there, also the criminal police) he came out and told that he paid.....yes he paid starting from the lower salary, making the names of people who should have been paid -who was there and ask him to phone to their banks and verify the transaction, never happened!!!!! - Police was ready with smoke bombs and baton in case things went worse...fortunately they didn't need!
The Province of Varese, which is quite rich, proposed to finance the whole thing , just if they had an industrial plan -as they recently did for other two companies, not aeronautical, but in great crisis - but..THERE IS NO TRACE OF A RAG OF A PLAN!!!!!
Our darling Palmonella remained without word and didn't want to do any declaration more...He just said that from sept. up to now he didn't see any money ( logical...all put in someone else account, if not spended!!!)....our social security contribution has not been paid since Nov. and not even the tax for ENAC for our licences has been paid.
Now he has 40 days starting from 5th Mar. to rearrange things ( utopia) then petition in bakruptcy will start.
I wonder when we'll see again at least some of our money.....
Azzurra has no plane anymore, sometimes they fly renting a/c from unmentionable company (hope also the crew).
The worst could have been happened..happened.
Hope our efforts to advertise the situation will be useful...unless....IN GOD WE TRUST!
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GAME OVER
Skunkie:
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Now he has 40 days starting from 5th Feb. to rearrange things ( utopia) then petition in bakruptcy will start.
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Should I read this as "... 5th March ..." ? Correct?
To the best of my understanding for Azzurra is now game over.
No money left anywhere (there was any money left before?), no customers, no business-plans, no banks, no ..., simply nothing.
If anybody is interested in learning more about Supermario's 7 Group Plc, please follow this link
7 Group PLC (SVG) Announcements
to learn more about Supermario's appointment as Director of 7 Group PLC and his (then) current directorship simply go here
Supermario's nomination
to discover the latest audited results of 7 Group PLC jump here
AUDITED RESULTS FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31ST MAY 2002
and to find how they swapped (paid) debt with new shares (someone would argue: real money due with brand new paper money...) simply click here (pls pay attention to the wording of the last period)
Issue of shares and options over shares
and, finally, the latest known (to me) address in London (Soho district) of 7 Group PLC:
7 Group plc,
52/54 Broadwick Street,
London, W1V 1FF
Tel: 02074394444
that is here:
http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichel...-.6fdogomkwogh
I hope that a solution will be found shortly for all Azzurra's employees but the situation looks very bad indeed.
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Now he has 40 days starting from 5th Feb. to rearrange things ( utopia) then petition in bakruptcy will start.
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Should I read this as "... 5th March ..." ? Correct?
To the best of my understanding for Azzurra is now game over.
No money left anywhere (there was any money left before?), no customers, no business-plans, no banks, no ..., simply nothing.
If anybody is interested in learning more about Supermario's 7 Group Plc, please follow this link
7 Group PLC (SVG) Announcements
to learn more about Supermario's appointment as Director of 7 Group PLC and his (then) current directorship simply go here
Supermario's nomination
to discover the latest audited results of 7 Group PLC jump here
AUDITED RESULTS FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31ST MAY 2002
and to find how they swapped (paid) debt with new shares (someone would argue: real money due with brand new paper money...) simply click here (pls pay attention to the wording of the last period)
Issue of shares and options over shares
and, finally, the latest known (to me) address in London (Soho district) of 7 Group PLC:
7 Group plc,
52/54 Broadwick Street,
London, W1V 1FF
Tel: 02074394444
that is here:
http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichel...-.6fdogomkwogh
I hope that a solution will be found shortly for all Azzurra's employees but the situation looks very bad indeed.
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yep Iceman51, I corrected on March....time is so slow when you don't work and don't see any money......
Legally things will go on for long time and any new is welcome, anyway thanx to all people supporting us and pls, if someone is only ironical....change topics
Legally things will go on for long time and any new is welcome, anyway thanx to all people supporting us and pls, if someone is only ironical....change topics
