Jet2 - where next?
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From a pretty reliable source they will at least start operating the (recently dropped) LBA-LGW route.
It was the most popular choice by their website visitors in a recent poll where the airline asked customers to choose where they wanted it to fly next.
Announcement expected in a couple of weeks I recall...
It was the most popular choice by their website visitors in a recent poll where the airline asked customers to choose where they wanted it to fly next.
Announcement expected in a couple of weeks I recall...
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Interesting choice!
In the past previous operators have always complained about the lack of revenue, that said back in cityflyers days it was a feed for BA, but they moved i think? a 1000 pax a week at the peak.Unless the fares are really good i don't think to many will use it as a feed for the Gatwick charter market, still it might be a good(or cheaper) way to get to South London.Used Capital a few years back on the 360 for the old CAA exams.Still shan't need to do that **** again(i hope!!!!)
Good luck to them.
In the past previous operators have always complained about the lack of revenue, that said back in cityflyers days it was a feed for BA, but they moved i think? a 1000 pax a week at the peak.Unless the fares are really good i don't think to many will use it as a feed for the Gatwick charter market, still it might be a good(or cheaper) way to get to South London.Used Capital a few years back on the 360 for the old CAA exams.Still shan't need to do that **** again(i hope!!!!)
Good luck to them.
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At the right price there is certainly a market for a bit of competition with bmi (LHR route).
Though it has to be said several carriers over the years have tried LBA-LGW without significant success.
I find LGW just as easy as LHR for getting into central London anyway with the Gatwick Express, tube takes forever from LHR and the Heathrow Express is half the price of the MAN-LHR return flight in the first place!
Though it has to be said several carriers over the years have tried LBA-LGW without significant success.
I find LGW just as easy as LHR for getting into central London anyway with the Gatwick Express, tube takes forever from LHR and the Heathrow Express is half the price of the MAN-LHR return flight in the first place!
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If you have read the LBA News there will be one 733 arrivig in October sometime and one in the new year. I think that next year they may operate an extra LEAL or LEMG due to the demand. They will certainly be trying to take the PAX from the Planetair routes. Amsterdam, Nice, Barcelona and Bergamo are still proving to be popular, so I think these routes will continue. There are other possibilities such as Murcia, Ibiza, and Faro (which they are operating during the winter).I do not think that EGKK would prove beneficial as from my experience this was mainly used for aircrew/cabin crew positioning for work. With the arrival of the BM A319 in the new year to use on the EGLL route I do not think it is beneficial for Jet2 to start a Gatwick route but we'll see. The EGNM-EGLL is probably the best (financially) route BMA have, and I think that they are strong enough to hold off any competition. Sometimes you can get a return for about £50.00. You have to realise that this is nearing the end of Jet2's first season and this has been a "testing the water time" for them. So most of next years routes will be the ones which make money, any other routes will be a trial. I have been told, but I think it is a load of b#####ks, that Jet2 and LBA are not making any money yet. I can see this from the airline but if LBA has seen an increase of at least 0.25 million passengers beacause of Jet2 how can this be!
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With the arrival of the BM A319 in the new year to use on the EGLL route
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I would think Jet2 ARE making money, their flights carry a good load factor with a variety of fares, high and very low.
With 2 new aircraft for next summer, i would think the following are possibilities for new routes:
London LGW
Belfast BFS
Jersey
Venice
Munich
Murcia
Ibiza
Tenerife
Paris CDG/ORY
I would also think that Malaga will go twice daily.
How about basing a couple of aircraft at Humberside as a route of expansion? Local support already in place and with enough catchment area to support both markets.
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With 2 new aircraft for next summer, i would think the following are possibilities for new routes:
London LGW
Belfast BFS
Jersey
Venice
Munich
Murcia
Ibiza
Tenerife
Paris CDG/ORY
I would also think that Malaga will go twice daily.
How about basing a couple of aircraft at Humberside as a route of expansion? Local support already in place and with enough catchment area to support both markets.
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Heard a rumor they may be looking at Newquay! This came as a surprise to me but dont RYR do it from Stanstead? Either way they'll do well as they are tapping into a large catchment area which until they came along wes underserved.
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The A319's will replace the F100's, the minibus is due at LBA sometime in the new year. The first BMA delivery wiil do the LHR-GLA route, and the second the LHR-LBA route. All the LBA based crews have to be converted by the end of February 2004, in the meantime the route will be operated by non LBA based crews. The F100's are going to the Far East somewhere. All this is correct apart from the timings, which maybe quicker or slower.
Regarding Jet2 routes, there are far more routes to be considered. Frankfurt, Munich, Salzburg, Innsbruck, Paris Le Bourget, Montpellier, and maybe more in Italy. All these are seasonal and we shall see. My personal choice, after being employed in aviation for 20 years would be, SUMMER:- Alicante, Malaga, Palma, Ibiza, Barcelona, Nice & Faro. WINTER:- Salzburg, Geneva, Innsbruck, Munich, Bergamo and one in France such as Chambery. The other routes which are Prague & Amsterdam can probably continue all year round due to their popularity.
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The A319's will replace the F100's, the minibus is due at LBA sometime in the new year. The first BMA delivery wiil do the LHR-GLA route, and the second the LHR-LBA route. All the LBA based crews have to be converted by the end of February 2004, in the meantime the route will be operated by non LBA based crews. The F100's are going to the Far East somewhere. All this is correct apart from the timings, which maybe quicker or slower.
Regarding Jet2 routes, there are far more routes to be considered. Frankfurt, Munich, Salzburg, Innsbruck, Paris Le Bourget, Montpellier, and maybe more in Italy. All these are seasonal and we shall see. My personal choice, after being employed in aviation for 20 years would be, SUMMER:- Alicante, Malaga, Palma, Ibiza, Barcelona, Nice & Faro. WINTER:- Salzburg, Geneva, Innsbruck, Munich, Bergamo and one in France such as Chambery. The other routes which are Prague & Amsterdam can probably continue all year round due to their popularity.
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The bmi website says the first A319 is to go on the LHR-BRU route, followed by various European & Domestic routes.
There are currently six fokkers flying for both mainline & baby. With four A319s ordered and only three delivered in 2004, I can see the F100s being around for a while yet !
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There are currently six fokkers flying for both mainline & baby. With four A319s ordered and only three delivered in 2004, I can see the F100s being around for a while yet !
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It's quite likely mme.........
However, with the Winter schedule starting on Oct 26th, the daily route pairings will possibly change. Also the new slot times are taken into account, along with the likely pax loads.
All done in the name of 'Maximising Revenue', which of course is what it is all about.
So you see you 'never can tell' 'til you actually see it sitting there on the tarmac !!
Roger Miller.
However, with the Winter schedule starting on Oct 26th, the daily route pairings will possibly change. Also the new slot times are taken into account, along with the likely pax loads.
All done in the name of 'Maximising Revenue', which of course is what it is all about.
So you see you 'never can tell' 'til you actually see it sitting there on the tarmac !!
Roger Miller.
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Does look as though BFS may be in the running although it is likely Jet 2 will have their work cut out - last time LBA was served from BFS was a few years ago until Air UK transferred to BHD and then discontinued the route after Flybe started. Flybe have operated the route since then without competition and will do whatever they have to to maintain their market share.
Also, Jet 2 will face the wrath of Easyjet at BFS. Good luck to them they'll need it!
Also, Jet 2 will face the wrath of Easyjet at BFS. Good luck to them they'll need it!
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LBA-BFS seems like an entirely sensible choice.
It is a goodly distance from all easyJet's English bases. Re any additional services, as long as they choose routes that don't conflict with EJ, they'll probably do OK.
Why shouldn't LBA work out of BFS work? Every other loco service seems to be doing OK.
It is a goodly distance from all easyJet's English bases. Re any additional services, as long as they choose routes that don't conflict with EJ, they'll probably do OK.
Why shouldn't LBA work out of BFS work? Every other loco service seems to be doing OK.