Doncaster Finningley - South Yorks International..?
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Interesting, so are all those people who were prattling on at the start of the year now feeling a little stupid?
DSA has commitment from the worlds largest travel company (larger than BA yes that's right, WORLDS largest travel company) for 5 based aircraft and scope for growth! That gives roughly 1 million passengers and their will be more operators to follow - how long has it taken most other regional to get there? LBA is doing OK now - but 2-3 years ago was only at that stage - so all those who wrote the airport off ... think again!
Now the name, for gods sake drop the international, if you are tall, people don't say o look, it's tall bob, everyone can see bob is tall and therefore don't need to comment.
Likewise, DSA will be a major international airport, therefore no need to label ourselves when it's obvious! The name - and please all copy and paste this for future reference is "Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport" If you prefer, DSA.
Like the name or loath it, everyone around the world has heard of it, wonder how many people have heard of Humberside? Name was a god send if you ask me!
Roll on 16th march (ooo, about 39 weeks and counting!)
DSA has commitment from the worlds largest travel company (larger than BA yes that's right, WORLDS largest travel company) for 5 based aircraft and scope for growth! That gives roughly 1 million passengers and their will be more operators to follow - how long has it taken most other regional to get there? LBA is doing OK now - but 2-3 years ago was only at that stage - so all those who wrote the airport off ... think again!
Now the name, for gods sake drop the international, if you are tall, people don't say o look, it's tall bob, everyone can see bob is tall and therefore don't need to comment.
Likewise, DSA will be a major international airport, therefore no need to label ourselves when it's obvious! The name - and please all copy and paste this for future reference is "Robin Hood Doncaster Sheffield Airport" If you prefer, DSA.
Like the name or loath it, everyone around the world has heard of it, wonder how many people have heard of Humberside? Name was a god send if you ask me!
Roll on 16th march (ooo, about 39 weeks and counting!)
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Just a thought.
Both MOL (FR) and RW (EZY) have spoken widely of a rapidly looming price war.
Most aviation commentors have said they would expect FR and EZY to be survivors, maybe bruised, but definately living. The mortally wounded and dead are predicted to be from among bmibaby, MyTravellite, FlyBE, and Thomsonfly.
Although I wish all at DSA every success I would say don't count your chickens til they have hatched.
True TUI are one of the worlds biggest travel firms, but their Tour Operator Empire is not there to support a very small fledgling LoCo - should Thomsonfly start to vent too much money they WILL paint Britannia on the side of those planes and shut Thomsonfly.com down faster than you could butter your bottom and call yourself a biscuit.
Although all of us on PPRuNe have a vested interest in aviation, and I respect all those who are interested in planes and flying, it has to be said that no amount of wishing will make your local regional airport bounce higher than all the others and suddenly become a major airline hub.
Show me one young Aircraft Enthusiast that doesn't hope that their nearby regional airport will one day be awash with Intercontinental flights, 747s, departures to every US gateway imaginable.
These are dreams - the reality is MONEY. People invest in airlines to make MONEY. Tour Operators re-invent part of their Charter Airline to make MONEY - if the money is not there they will look to make money in other ways.
It would be fantastic to work for a carrier that simply LOVEs flying, a crew that simply LOVEs serving customers, into airports that simply are determind to offer point to point flights to scores of destinations just for the LOVE of it.
Truth is LOVE makes little money.
If Thomsonfly turn DSA into Ryanair's STN then brilliant - well done to them. But until they do don't start getting yourself a new camera and binoculars - you will only be seeing planes in your dreams.
Both MOL (FR) and RW (EZY) have spoken widely of a rapidly looming price war.
Most aviation commentors have said they would expect FR and EZY to be survivors, maybe bruised, but definately living. The mortally wounded and dead are predicted to be from among bmibaby, MyTravellite, FlyBE, and Thomsonfly.
Although I wish all at DSA every success I would say don't count your chickens til they have hatched.
True TUI are one of the worlds biggest travel firms, but their Tour Operator Empire is not there to support a very small fledgling LoCo - should Thomsonfly start to vent too much money they WILL paint Britannia on the side of those planes and shut Thomsonfly.com down faster than you could butter your bottom and call yourself a biscuit.
Although all of us on PPRuNe have a vested interest in aviation, and I respect all those who are interested in planes and flying, it has to be said that no amount of wishing will make your local regional airport bounce higher than all the others and suddenly become a major airline hub.
Show me one young Aircraft Enthusiast that doesn't hope that their nearby regional airport will one day be awash with Intercontinental flights, 747s, departures to every US gateway imaginable.
These are dreams - the reality is MONEY. People invest in airlines to make MONEY. Tour Operators re-invent part of their Charter Airline to make MONEY - if the money is not there they will look to make money in other ways.
It would be fantastic to work for a carrier that simply LOVEs flying, a crew that simply LOVEs serving customers, into airports that simply are determind to offer point to point flights to scores of destinations just for the LOVE of it.
Truth is LOVE makes little money.
If Thomsonfly turn DSA into Ryanair's STN then brilliant - well done to them. But until they do don't start getting yourself a new camera and binoculars - you will only be seeing planes in your dreams.
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egnxema, some very wise words there. I agree totally. I too wish DSA all the best next year when it begins passenger operations.
Leeds has taken 60 odd years to begin to look like an airport. I cannot help but think DSA is going to take a considerable lenghth of time to develop too. Yes it has a relatively long runway but so does Stansted and it too has largely been unable to attract long haul flights of the type DSA is said to be trying to gain.
I do think though that the likes of Manchester airport totally under estimate the will of Yorkshire folk to fly from the Yorkshire region. Both Manchester and NEMA are likely to take a bashing in the years to come, be it flying from LBA or DSA
War of the roses 2???
Leeds has taken 60 odd years to begin to look like an airport. I cannot help but think DSA is going to take a considerable lenghth of time to develop too. Yes it has a relatively long runway but so does Stansted and it too has largely been unable to attract long haul flights of the type DSA is said to be trying to gain.
I do think though that the likes of Manchester airport totally under estimate the will of Yorkshire folk to fly from the Yorkshire region. Both Manchester and NEMA are likely to take a bashing in the years to come, be it flying from LBA or DSA
War of the roses 2???
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egnxema.
We sing from the same hymn sheet.
To survive over the winter you need cash in the bank. For sure Thomsonfly are filling seats right now, but at loss leader prices.
This cannot continue.
Robin Hood/Sheff/Leeds East/Donc/ whatever will be attracting local/national and EU re-development aid, some of which will be directed toward attracting airlines for this new venture. A south Wales airport and a Lo-Co arm of Luft are a testimony to this.
Now at Luton went bust even before flying and they were given regional EU aid to start according to our media.
I hope Robin survives.
Mortgage rates up again today, eventually the Lo-Co bubble will burst. Mr Webster and Mr O Leary agree with Buster on this!
We sing from the same hymn sheet.
To survive over the winter you need cash in the bank. For sure Thomsonfly are filling seats right now, but at loss leader prices.
This cannot continue.
Robin Hood/Sheff/Leeds East/Donc/ whatever will be attracting local/national and EU re-development aid, some of which will be directed toward attracting airlines for this new venture. A south Wales airport and a Lo-Co arm of Luft are a testimony to this.
Now at Luton went bust even before flying and they were given regional EU aid to start according to our media.
I hope Robin survives.
Mortgage rates up again today, eventually the Lo-Co bubble will burst. Mr Webster and Mr O Leary agree with Buster on this!
