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Direct Entry Pilots for KQ

Old 21st Nov 2014, 13:56
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Cadets are given a loan through co-op bank. They have to pay it back.

Training duration depends on an individual. I know a fellow who was a captain elsewhere, who took about 9 months for his training. I also know a cadet who took a much shorter period.

If they get more planes and fly them half full or park them, where will they get money to pay the pilots (training and salaries) ? This is the dilemma.

I don't know if any DECs have failed line checks but cadets, yes.
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 07:51
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You go through all the hard work throughout your licence and TR training only to come and fail on line check! Sounds dumb to me!

How did they pass their TR training then?
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 05:04
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Intersting

Over last week, this is what I found about K.A Direct Entry Pilot Program.

There are 2 intakes in a year. 1 in Jan and the other in June/July. The whole process from interview to LHS can take up to 12 months or more. Depend on the company needs.

If you trained in Kenya the odds for you to get the gig are very limited as the carrier doesn’t have faith with the quality of training in Kenya. However they encourage you to apply because their process is “true and fair”.

If you trained in S.A the odds are 50-50 depending on the institution you trained. However the carrier encourages you to apply because their process is “true and fair”.

If you trained in Europe, USA or Australia the odds are in your favour even if you may not be a good pilot.

K.A are very strict on the K.C.S.E grades marks they need for DEC. If you fall short on any of the marks they need, it’s a NO for you. The only way to bypass it is if you have >2700 TT. You can also bypass the aptitude test if you have >3600TT (Must have some serious time on Multies if not Jet)


The pay during training as a S.O is not good. Gets better after promoted to F.O. Promotion between S.O to F.O can take up to 12 months. Depends on how good the pilot is with his rudder and stick skills and the company.

Seniority is per date you joined the company and total hours at the time. You must have an ATPL and at least 3000 hours before you can be promoted to captain- E-jet. Some pilots have made it to captain in less than 5 yrs.

Disclaimer: The information i got was from a third party. A former pilot for the carrier. I do not know how accurate the information is. I stand to be corrected.
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Old 26th Nov 2014, 07:45
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January Interviews

Does anyone know if the interviews are happening in Jan 15 Or any rumours otherwise.

As a side note, I read they are getting 3 737-800s with sky interior next year so its not all doom and gloom.

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Old 26th Nov 2014, 19:27
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OP

Yes still planned for next yr. But who knows they may change their minds again at the back of their recent losses!

2 738 have arrived and 2 more next yr plus 3 787. All 777-200s have been grounded.
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Old 27th Nov 2014, 10:52
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KQ interviews

Hey...are the rumours about postponing the recruitments true, I really hope that the interviews are in January_ anyone with solid information????
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Old 28th Oct 2015, 04:20
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Yea I'm interested also.
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Old 3rd May 2016, 08:39
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Some good news might be coming sooner than expected! BUT lets wait for June 1. KALPA......Thumbs up!
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Old 8th May 2016, 08:54
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Good news? when they are busy seconding their Pilots to ET and possibly Rwandair too, and some to Oman air with their wet leased 777? I doubt there will be any good news for at least two years.

Lets not even mention the elections next year.
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Old 11th May 2016, 08:46
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Yeah some good news might come soon. Fact is the carrier is short on pilots and what the current "management" is doing is they are selfishly trying to meet the company KPI so as they can get rewarded coz they want to be known as the "management" which brought the company back to probability. BUT at what cost? That's why KALPA is fighting them on some of their "operation pride" strategies.
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Old 7th Jun 2016, 05:51
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Looks like Qatar wants some of K.Q Pilots....for those who may wana jump ship. At the moment they appear to have better T&C's than the other M.E carries.....

Qatar Airways Careers - Current Opportunities
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 09:35
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Dep's

Greetings pipes, I have just applied for direct entry and everything is quiet, do they start calling or emailing guys before the closing date or after
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Old 27th Dec 2016, 21:39
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Originally Posted by swiftfront View Post
Greetings pipes, I have just applied for direct entry and everything is quiet, do they start calling or emailing guys before the closing date or after
Hey,
Normally they start calling (by email) towards the end of closing date. Maybe this time it'll be in January.
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Old 28th Dec 2016, 14:03
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Thanks kenyann254, will surely be looking at my email. The closing date was Feb 28th so we assume they will communicate in January or February.
It surely looks like not very many people have applied or guys are still in vacation....
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Old 10th Jan 2017, 09:33
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Hi guys. I gather the closure of applications is in ten days though the site says otherwise. This is from an internal email KQ sent to the current staff holding other positions, that are applying for DE Pilot position. You also need to make sure that you did do the assessment on their recruitment portal. All the best guys.
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Old 12th Jan 2017, 08:33
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Operation Pride

Anybody knows if this year pilots will also be casualties of operation pride. I know last year KALPA made some noises and KQ given in.
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Old 13th Jan 2017, 05:47
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Originally Posted by Pilot Breezy View Post
Anybody knows if this year pilots will also be casualties of operation pride. I know last year KALPA made some noises and KQ given in.
From what I hear at least 5 of the old guys might have fallen casualties. I have to insist it is hear-say though. None of the others will be affected. Rumor has it that the old T7 captains who were complaining on being by-passed on the B787 positions were sent for their training and when they came back were failed on the checkout just to get rid of them. Politics at play as usual! But I figure recruitment of new first officers is going to take place regardless...
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Old 15th Jan 2017, 09:28
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Tells you why the carrier is on RED!
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Old 15th Feb 2017, 14:14
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its got to be the e jets mate. Just a rumour.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 09:15
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Originally Posted by benalwa View Post
its got to be the e jets mate. Just a rumour.
I always thought E-jets have sufficient pilots given that it's the entry aircraft for all pilots (AB & DE) and most stay on e-jet for 2.5 to 3.5 years. My guess would be the 787 given the current work load it's putting through and the quick turnarounds of trips!

He may also be meaning Captains as they are the ones leave for M.E

I stand corrected......

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