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Old 23rd November 2008 | 01:02
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Does that include you when you are not up at the pointy end impressing the idiots in the back with your wit, charm and indisputable skill, then? And indeed your AME's who all travel in the back because by default, they are too thick to be pilots........
unstable load,

According to your age you should be a "grown-up". Never expect statements, categorizing people like that from a suppose to be "grown-up". Hope you got the guts to say it to their faces.
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Old 23rd November 2008 | 08:04
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Old 23rd November 2008 | 08:28
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Zaherk,

Had you read all of my post including the non letter bits at the end, you may have taken it as intended, which was a gentle nudge for someone who most likely had engaged mouth before shifting to brain.

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Does that include you when you are not up at the pointy end impressing the idiots in the back with your wit, charm and indisputable skill, then? And indeed your AME's who all travel in the back because by default, they are too thick to be pilots........
If he had indeed not done what I suspect then, in the words of Oom Pilot
CRM is tailor made for you mate!
If I had been a pax on that flight and had been the one who called the tower to be told that there was nothing on the runway, I would be a little miffed and a lot worried about the quality of person up front. After all, I do not contribute to his/her salary to be insulted by someone who has the arrogance to think he is my mental superior simply because he has bars on his shoulder.
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Old 23rd November 2008 | 08:34
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As for
Hope you got the guts to say it to their faces
it's a pity they never had the guts to tell the pax what actually happened instead of shifting the blame to the Tower.
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Old 23rd November 2008 | 09:46
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I've had one as bad, many years ago positioning JNB-CPT, also a go around with not a mention from the cockpit - nothing! Silence all the way to the gate. Nothing to reassure those white knuckled pax.
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Old 23rd November 2008 | 19:22
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You guys make it seem as if a Go-Around is the end of the world. If the approach was unstable, it does not mean the PIC is going to walk the red carpet to the boss man. Read the original post. He mentions the PIC said they did a Go-Around cause of an aircraft on the runway. Then afterwards changes the story that he blamed ATC. Well which is it? As an ex-ATC, it is hard getting the tower's phone number so it must have been a clever friend of yours who called as he knows the number. And if any information was disclosed to the caller, I can only question the professionalism of the controller as that is a no-no of the job. Take it up at ATNS Head Office if you dare. For interest sake, was the originator of this post on the flight deck, in the tower or even involved with the incident? Or just spreading rumours as this is a rumour website. Safe flying

"was a pilot initiated go-around" - LOL, I would certainly hope so.

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Old 23rd November 2008 | 21:50
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was a pilot initiated go-around" - LOL, I would certainly hope so.
hahaha. Hadn't caught that. But I got the intended meaning. So did the pilot change his story from having an a/c on the runway to blaming it on ATC?
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Old 24th November 2008 | 12:29
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Go-arounds are mandatory and landings are optional! Who cares who gets the blame, the guys executed one of the safest, ego swallowing manoeuvres out.
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Old 24th November 2008 | 12:37
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unstable load

Whatever, only you will know the true meaning.
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Old 24th November 2008 | 19:47
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Trust me we will send u around wen there is tfc! Just fly the plain plain plain doughnut!
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Old 25th November 2008 | 12:42
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Zaherk,

I should be in Changi Terminal 2 on the 10th of December, so if you buy me a beer for my time, I will explain in small words what I meant.

In the meanwhile try to think about yourself as a pax rather than the bloke up at the pointy end and consider how you would feel if Biggles made an announcement like that (assuming he DID make it) and your reaction once that staement was made inferring that you are too thick to know the difference.

"Noli nothis permittere te terere."
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