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Old 31st Jan 2009, 12:26
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what was that line, there's a sucker born every minute?
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Yeah, well... A new startup, operating a single 737-200, out of Uganda, financed out of Sudan.
It's either mafia, or some kind of joke. Since nobody's laughing, that leaves...

What is there to discuss about?
 
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If you look at the website, they have some Ugandan with a bunch of qualifications as most of the top management types. I am not sure how valid their qualifications are, as TIA. There is another guy from North America somewhere involved, presumably he is the brains behind it all. Then again he can,t have much as he,s involved in a fly by night B732 operation in Uganda.
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First Flight at Last

From New Vision03Feb09


A man slaughters a white bull at the launch of the Skyjet

By Ayiga Ondoga
in Juba

SKYJET, a new airline company, has launched fights on the Entebbe - Juba route.

A return air ticket will cost $390 (about sh764,400) inclusive of taxes.

The service is expected to easy transport and promote business between Uganda and South Sudan.

A white bull was on Sunday slaughtered at Juba Airport to commemorate the inaugural flight witnessed by Garang Deng Aguer, the proprietor, and Musoke Tamale, the Kampala operations manager.

“We used to fly from Entebbe to Juba via Addis Ababa (Ethiopia), which is a long route. But this is now a shorter route,” Edward Yak, a social worker on board, stated. “We want Africa to develop like the outside world,” he added.

Maj. Gen. Elias Waya, who was also on the inaugural flight said: “The service is okay and it’s the first good service to South Sudan because previously, we used to book one week earlier to travel to Uganda.”

“It has not been an easy venture but we have a long-term development plan. Our programme is big. We are not here for quick money but to give service to the travelling public because we are an indigenous aircraft,” Tamale explained.

Deng said the new service would ease transport for the 12 million population of South Sudan.
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Actually, looking at that picture... some wild men walking around on the apron, hacking an animal to death infront of their matatu-plane... what happened, did they forget also some kind of human sacrifice? Aren't they supposed to slaughter a virgin, or something? (Or maybe this is yet to come, when it will be 120 human sacrifices, all sitting inside).

Those guys should stick to riding bicycles or donkeys. All I can say is it's a primitive airline for the primitive operations of superstitious voodoo-tribes.

“We want Africa to develop like the outside world,”
Wait and see for a few months, until they crash that thing somewhere between Entebbe and Juba.
 
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Alok Group

Ricardo, please send more info about ALOK Group, I don't find nothing
Tel, mail, address. Please regards marco
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What goes around comes around

Monitor Daily

Skyjet Airlines restructures management

Dorothy Nakaweesi

Kampala

Skyjet Airlines has restructured its management, ending leadership struggles that saw the company halting flights on the lucrative Entebbe-Juba route, a month ago.
Established as a cargo airline in 2003, Skyjet Airlines started passenger services on February 1, 2009 with their Boeing 737-200, breaking the monopoly created by Eagle Air and Air Uganda.
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Passengers disembarking a Skyjet plane. FILE PHOTO

The restructuring exercise saw Captain Ahmed Shawgi, who has been a shareholder in this company relieved of his duties and phased-out of the company. Captain Shawgi had a 95 per cent stake in Skyjet and Mr Musoke 5 per cent.

The company is now owned by Southern Sudan’s billionaire Mr Geng Garang of Alok Group who is the majority shareholder with 95 per cent and Mr Hamad Musoke Tamale, a Ugandan Businessman with a 5 per cent stake. Initially Alok Group had a 70 per cent stake in the aircraft and the 30 per cent was owned by Mr Musoke and Captain Shawgi.

In an interview with Daily Monitor, Mr Musoke said; “We have successfully restructured the company and brought a new manager with a wealth of expertise and experience. We have relieved Captain Shawgi of his duties which were full of inefficiencies”.

According to Mr Musoke, Captain Shawgi lacked ethics. He was not honest in regard to how the accounts of the company.
Musoke further adds that, because of this, he (Captian Shawgi) committed unnecessary liabilities leading the company into over costs, which is a sign of poor management skills.

“Secondly, Captain Shawgi lied about his academic credentials; he told us that he was trained from Russia and a holder of a Russian License to handle Single Engine Air crafts. This means he was not a qualified pilot to handle a Boeing 737-200,” Musoke said.
Now, Captain John Manak, a veteran retired Commercial Pilot from Southern Sudan becomes the new Executive Director of the company.

Musoke said; “Captain Manak has been in the industry since 1969. He once worked for Forker 27-Airbuses and Saudi Airlines for several years where he was operating aircrafts in the range of Boeing 707 and 737-200”.

Other changes in the company saw, the switching of leadership, Mr Garang who bought out Captain Shawgi, becomes the chairman while Mr Musoke who has been the Chairman, becomes the Vice Chairman of the company.

Mr Musoke explains that he got to know Captain Shawgi from his Egyptian friend who once owned Air Memphis an airline company licensed to do business in Uganda. But later in 2006, Air Memphis was re-branded as Skyjet.

However Musoke is not sure of the exact time as to when they will resume their flights but assured the business community and their customers on this route that this is going to be very soon.

He said now that they have sorted out this mess, they will be flying airbus 737-200 which is currently parked at the Old-Airport in Entebbe, to Nairobi-Kenya for servicing and maintenance and thereafter resume services as soon as possible.

The Aircraft had reached regular loads of double-digit passenger figures plus generous quantities of loose cargo adding to the revenue. On a daily basis, they would get 80-90 on a return route.

The Boeing has a seating capacity of up to 100 passengers, first class and economy combined. A first class return ticket to Juba is $658 while a one-way is $404; for economy premium, a return ticket is $485 with $289 for a one way while economy class clients will part with $393 for a return ticket and $225 for one way.

The Juba route remains the most profitable for airlines like Air Uganda. Trade volumes from Uganda to Southern Sudan have increased since relative peace returned to one of Africa’s biggest countries.

The company is also in preparations to bring in their second aircraft a Boeing 737-300 with 164-seater, into the country.
Mr Garang in his remarks at the launching of their maiden flight said; “The airline is expected in the next few weeks to commence flights routes from Juba to Khartoum, before launching flights to Cairo later on”.

The aircraft received an Airlines Operator Certificate (AOC), from Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) the regulators.
Skyjet was given designated carrier status by the Ugandan Civil Aviation Authority to fly to Southern Sudan, Sudan, Egypt, Djibouti, Kenya and Tanzania among others.

In an interview with Daily Monitor CAA’s Public Relations Manager, Mr Ignie Igundura said; “We had information that the company had halted flights and we have been seeing the aircraft parked. But we have not received communication from the company as to when it will resume flights”.

Igundura said for an airline company to be granted flying rights, CAA looks at its shareholding, financial muscle, the state of the aircraft and the routes to be served.
The authority usually gives licenses ranging from one to five years depending on the nature and size of company.
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New management same story

Skyjet Airlines has restructured its management in his own way.
Basically we are again at the beginning once more.
The never ending story comes with the news of today that one of the pilots is still waiting for his own salary after more than six months from SkyJet Uganda , now according from my internal sources the actual management is not even showing the willingness to pay the debts toward their own ex employ, that is sad because how they can build up an airline and even worse how they reconstruct the internal issue when the mayor problem such lack of solvency has not been solved?
An airplane need a pilot and a pilot need to be paid in order to work and most certainly no one will fly for free. So how they can get the route approval from the Uganda CAA if every months they have to find pilots to work for them?
No stability at all.
Beside the strangest idea of an B737 300 which surely is an EFIS equipped , but if SkyJet is unable to maintain the proper routine on B737 200 how they can think to do n the latest 300 version which require special technician for the flight instruments that are all computerize?
Those above other issue are to be consider from the CAA of Uganda before to approach for a new AOC.
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Oh boy, barely six months in and the problems arrive. I saw this coming from a thousand miles away. Anyone can look at my posts at the beginning of this thread and my views are aired well. And to think that they had a captain that had no 737 type. Men that takes the cake. What makes it even better is the fact that one of the owners blatantly talks about it in public.
And by the way Riccardo, the 737-300 originally came with conventional steam gauges. It wasn't till later on that that some airlines began to retrofit their 737-300's with EFIS. I doubt this sham of an airline will try to obtain an EFIS quipped 737. But then again, crazier things have happened! Just out of curiosity, where does skyjet send it's crew for recurrent training? If they ever do such a thing!
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how they can think to do n the latest 300 version
Well, there are plenty of old derelict 737s parked in the desert somewhere. They can be obtained through various leasing companies. So no problem about that, if you come up with some money.
There are also many desperate pilots around who are ready to fly for food.
Apart from that you just need a mobile phone, a few friendly politicians, an offshore-bankaccount, and some cleverness.

This joke here is not an airline, it's a matatu-operation. I would't reccomend anybody to actually ride that thing. But even just the fact that such a project is actually permitted to operate, is just proof of (yet another) example of corruption and mafia-business.
Nobody who is right in their mind would otherwise grant them an AOC.

Companies like that exist throughout all the third-world countries. Usually they start up by operating one or two old junky planes, transporting whatever brings money, being flown by mercenaries/cowboys, and always involved in some shady financial games.
Business goes on for a few years or less, making some local businessman rich.
They finally cease to operate again, once they either crash their flagship, run out of excuses for not paying fuel bills, or simply fail to adequately bribe the local politicians.
 
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Well as far as I know no such thing like crew re currency exist in their mind.
The think that most worry me is the fact that they did not even know where to bring the airplane to do the routine check. how in the world the CAA of Uganda can issue an AOC, with all do respect for the CAA of Uganda, to such company that would not even provide the address of a services maintenance center for the B737.,
That is one of the many requirement for an AOC.
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How they got an AOC... really, you wonder?
I would say "just the normal way."
 
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Stay Away From This

Anyone even contemplating working for this outfit, think again. They make promises that they don't keep and sign contracts that they have no intention of honoring. If you do decide to do this as you have nothing else remotely available, make sure you have enough money to get by when they ground the aircraft or don't decide to pay you, and enough to buy the ticket back home while they are ironing out money problems with the aircraft sitting on the ramp for months at a time.

As far as the 300 is concerned, I am sure they will be able to pick one up from the hundreds that sit in the desert in Arizona and California (United is parking over 90 as I write) for a song and put it into service.

And Ricardo, they probably won't do any maintenance on the EFIS system and I would not be surprised to see this outfit flying with standby instruments as a normal operation. If the AC gets caught in a situation where they need parts that are not being maintained, no big thing for the investors as it is the pilots caught in the dangerous situations.

And everyone always remember, an AOC can be obtained for any airline as long as the investors have enough contacts, influence, and money.

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Only just came on this thread,, very interesting, and my suspicions were aroused when I saw the name of Capt Ahmed, then rest of his name didn't match, but then looking at his picture on their website, i'm pretty certain it was a guy we came across in the UAE with another second name. Have a look at the picture on their website and memorise it, and then have nothing, zero to do with the guy.
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