AIR MAURITIUS Exodus

[LocaliserAlive]

Of course it is all about compromise. No place is perfect. I keep hearing these horror stories of guys transiting through their home for less than 24 hours and rest periods of 18 hours for a duty of 17 hours, east west flying etc, etc... A lot of guys I meet tell me that when they left MK, it was as if holidays were over and that they were now starting to work!

Inchallah, I am sorry that you did not have a good time in MRU. I am enjoying my flights and work here. Looks like you have some personal grudge with MK management. I am sorry it did not work out for you or for others. Managing a company is not as easy as some may think, especially a small airline, and pilots are difficult to please.

[planecrazi]

Localiser Alive,

How well are you enjoying your job in MK? Judging by your previous posts and enquiries about other airliners, it seems as if you're were about to make plans!

Hello everybody,

One or two questions for guys working there already. I made some research already but there is too much stuff to go through (and so little time!!) and I am getting confused the more I read through the threads.

1- Where are the aircrafts registered?
2- Do you get the gateway that you choose or does the company choose for you from a list?
3- What will be the approximate salary(basic + allowances) that an F/O based in France will bring back home (money in the pocket after taxes, contributions etc etc)
4- Same as 3 but for a Captain
5- What types do you operate in Netjets
6- How many days of leave(holidays) per year
7- Do you follow Portuguese legislation

Thank you for any response. I know one or two replies will ask me to do a search but it is not the most convenient means to get my answers.

Cheers and happy new year,

Loc

Hello all,

Been a while since my last visit to this forum. Would anyone care to update me on the terms and conditions for the AMS basing, with figures in Euros and details of the other benefits? It is not clear from their website wether you get the same conditions when based in HKG or overseas?

Rgds,


Loc

So, does anyone know if they would hire A340 captains on the A330 at KAL?

Thanks for any info

Loc.

How long between application and 1st interview at CX?
Could anybody give me some details about the above?

Thanks,

Loc

Thanks guys,

I wanted to know how much time I would have to prepare for the interviews.


Cheers

Loc

Need I go on about how happy you are at MK, did you actually make any of the interviews??

[inchallah]

Thanks Planecrazi

Loc, read my post again I never said i didnt enjoy MRU. I did however say there are other places in the world which i feel is better and cheaper. Yes it was the management or mismanagement that I was upset with.
It you cant please a small group of pilots then how are you going to run a big company. I think a small airline is the best place to keep guys happy, the demands are not all that lavish and since you are dealing with such a small group, it would be rather easy to come to an understanding which suited both parties. You will find that big companies such as EK, BA, CX, EY have so many pilots, all wanting different things from the company hence you have more p!ssed off guys.
So it wasnt so hard for MK to come to terms with what we proposed, infact I know we were all willing to do our bit to pull them thru the bad times. BUt when you have bean counters running the show with no idea of the aviation market and some arrogance(perhaps ignorance) to boot, this is a recipe for disaster.
I believe they are now seeing the fruits of their labour. They thought they would be so clever to counter propose with some Sh!tty proposals and with all the delays. Well the results are now speaking for themselves and now we wait for them to cancel leave and get ready to do some overtime. Only thing they can rely on is to get approval to not log time in the bunk, i understand from sources within this will happen soon.
I enjoyed my time in MRU and certainly the flying was great. But I need to know where my career and life is going and need to put food on the table. There were too many hidden agendas and nothing was ever clear, which made it very difficult to know whether you had a future with MK or not.
I wont bother getting into the treading on eggshells, one has to do with Flight Ops.
SO good to see you are enjoying MK LOC, or perhaps you are one of these guys who went to interviews and didnt make it and now realise you have no where else to go.........

[LocaliserAlive]

Helo Planecrazi. I do not know one pilot who does not start reading a Flight magazine from the back pages! Of course I had a look at other places for work, one would be stupid not to. I've also had my bad times here. After considering everything, I still find I (and my familly) have a good life in MRU and the job is not that bad. So, I am enjoying myself (You can't blame me for that?!?). I know what I have here and not really sure what to expect elsewhere. Finally, I never went to any interviews!!I do not plan to move now. I am not saying it will not happen but this is how it is now.

Inchallah, you would be surprised that even in a small airline, every pilot thinks he has a solution for all the problems happening and how things should be run!! You would be amazed to hear about all the stupid requests or proposals that pilots(like you and me) come up with and are p!ssd off when management does not agree.

Anyway, I see that I will not convince you and do not want to. Everybody has his own experience and is free to have his point of view. Maybe you are one of these guys who did not make it to command with MK and left angry!

Cheers,

Loc

P.S. The new logging of hours was introduced in Oct 07 but nobody followed it. DCA has just come back with a letter (a few days back)to remind us about it. So, bunk time is not logged by co-pilots. However, salary will still be based on FDH and overtime on the full flight time (of aircraft). I beleive this is applied in the sand pit already (please correct if I am wrong).

[inchallah]

Good One

LocAlive, yes I can see how you could come up with the conclusion that I left because I didnt pass the command selection.

However, your assumptions are not far from the truth. I left because I couldnt see myself getting a chance for a long time at command. All the National guys are now approaching their chance and it is their airline, so they should be given that chance. I felt that I would be pushed further down the line and perhaps that opportunity might never come to me.

Another thing was watching certain guys getting through the command course who let's just say anywhere else they would be lucky to hold on to a FO position, that includes the expats too.

And yes I dont think you will change my mind about pleasing a smaller pilot group. Im sure many would have their own ways to run companies and so on, but I strongly believe it is much easier to negotiate with a small pilot group in a small airline that the opposite. I am talking from experience. Nevertheless you are going to have guys who will complain but i feel you can please the majority in a small group.

[LocaliserAlive]

Inchallah

I am sure we must have flown together then. I have flown with a few F/Os (expat and locals) who have asked me for my opinion about command upgrade here. I told them that in their position I would go and look somewhere else now because time to command is a problem (except for guys high in seniority) and there is no guarantee. Once you have been through upgrade in MK, beleive me life is enjoyable and it is worth staying if you can adapt to the country. I think you took the right decision to leave if you were far down the list. You had to take control of your future.

[inchallah]

Cheers...

Im sure we flew together depending on how long you have been a Capt. If not then Im sure we flew as FO's together.

Now that you say they have confirmed the "No Logging of bunk rest", there will be some tired guys out there. Do you guys still get a lot of sick days because you will be using them. It is very tiring let me tell you now, doing 1200hrs a year, luckily you guys dont have many East-West flying.

[exde]

Max exodus to get worse

The latest from the island is:
The DCA have been pressurised into not allowing F/Os to claim flying time while in the bunk. Even although it seems to be a recognised practise it is done with a bit of island flair in Mauritius.
This now affects the 900 hr max yearly total( even although this is supposed to be block time)
The 80 hr contract limit will now never be seen as they can add a good 24 hrs onto that(time spent in the bunk on each leg) so no more overtime even although a F/O will spend more than 100 hrs every month in the airplane.
Many who were on the fence have been pushed.
Those of you thinking to go to the island paradise be carefull,you will never be in paradise and will only spend time recovering for the next flight.

[inchallah]

Just ran into a couple of lads from Paradise in ops on my way home. According to them more guys are following suite. So does anymore have an idea how many are leaving MK?
Im also told the last attempt of trying to extend the crew hours by not logging bunk times had hit a brick wall.

[Captain_djaffar]

Hi.
Sorry to sneak in between your hot conversation guys,today I was in the south of the island,at around 11:10 am,and saw in the skies a GA light aircraft,kind of a cessna 4-seater or piper,(i couldnt distinguish more precisely unfortunately) on its base leg on a right hand circuit at fimp.
Could anyone if he knows tell more about this aircraft?Is it for rental?Who is the probable owner?a local guy?

Thanks.

[TSHEKUDU]

yes,its management trying to escape

[flyingwerks]

Heard from some of the boys who fly in paradise that Air mauritius is getting rid of the two A319's.
Is this true?

[Captain_djaffar]

One is already on lease.
Any actual MK pilots could comment on the future on the A319s?
Will they be replaced by other aircrafts?

Had the intention of getting a type on A320,but not anymore.