Jobs in Africa (2008 onwards) Part 2

[johnboyy2g]

Can anyone confirm

I PMd a pilot on here, he said he went to Africa and said not to come, that all the jobs were being offered to expats only if they had 500tt or more. The reason he said is because by requiring 500 hrs the operators could say they could not find any native pilots who qualify, so the 500 hr was being used as justification to not hire a native, or at least not search forever to find one with low hours,so raise the hours and say there is no one native that qualifies.

I have PMd him twice asking for additional information like, which country. How long did he stay etc. but no response.

Anyone weigh in on this, I am interested in Namibia myself...

Anyone, anyone?

[gopher121]

how can we apply to ASKY? any email address? thanks

[chennault2]

Interested in Africa

I am interested in flying 206s (or other) in botwsana (or elsewhere in Africa). Can anyone give me the information on the changes to my FAA issued license that need to be made to be legal there. And possibly how to do it. I have comm S&M instrument land airplane and about 3000TT with 1000ME. Also, I am told that in order to get a job there you must go there No email resumes or a bunch of phone calls).

Any ideas on visits to make while there so I am not just showing up hoping to find aviation companies.

Any help is appreciated,

[Solid Rust Twotter]

http://www.pprune.org/african-aviati...ial-guide.html

[Eudi]

SF340 jobs?

Hello to everybody!

anybody knows if there is opportunitties for SF340 First officer?

I'm rated in SF340, A320, MEP,SEP, IR.
Total time 501 Hours.
Hours on type (Saab340) 298
Hours MEP: 50

Thanks

[valKilmer3481]

Looking for LearJetJob in Africa

Hi there, am current on Beechjet 400 and LearJet 55 not current on the Lear 60.
Have experience in Kongo, Gabon, Cote d´Ivoire, Kenya >3600TT I look again for a GA-Job or Airline in Africa and/or all over the world.
Cheers
skype: valkilmer3481
[email protected]
am sitting in Europe and am available now

[soakingpilot]

johnnyboy it looks like u need 500tt or plus or can kiss ass hardcore or know someone here in maun.

save your money and wait for some positive posts before you come out here.

and read the forums all the information you should need is in there plus this post.

[lilflyboy262]

Soaking, Please dont be bitter about your experience in Maun.
Not everyone can get a job here. The only ass kissing that happened was with one company. And I assume that was the one that you are most pissed about as you had the best chance there with them.

You have learnt a lot about this place. You have had a good time. Everyone knows you as a good guy. If you are serious about getting a job here. Then come back next year.
The government has stopped training mostwana as the cost is too high. So there will be more jobs to expats over the next few years.

More people got hired this year than last year.

[darkroomsource]

lilflyboy

I'm sitting in Windhoek. Wondering if I should trek to Maun...
I do owe you a couple of beers...
What are the chances you'll get over this way in the next 3 months?

[Wildpilot]

For the record not everyone in Maun thinks you are a good guy as you have been winging on different threads now, get over it.

Its pathetic and shows what you are really like outside of the show you put on. This is aviation this sort of thing happens all the time and one day if you loose the bitterness no doubt you will get a job by the friend net work.

Some of the guys that do the hiring in Maun have read your moaning and are not impressed, I know because they are good friends. You are making it harder for yourself every time you make stupid immature coments on here.

[ragdragger]

I actually think it is good to hear that pilots are being hired in Maun these days based on experience and not just drinking skills. Not sure I believe it. And if I were a chief pilot I would hire a more experienced friend over a lower time candidate without a second thought. If it doesn't work out maybe get a CFI, build some time in the States and try again next year.

[soakingpilot]

no doubt rag you missed the point but ill leave it at that.

[ragdragger]

I just think anyone who gets bitter about not getting hired in Maun had unrealistic expectations going in. I mean c'mon. They get at least 4x more applicants than they have jobs for and most of them rock up with almost identical qualifications, hours etc. so there is no way that the selection process can be anything but arbitrary. Everyone wants advice on how to improve their chances, some people say having a CFI, or time on type, or more hours or whatever but anyone who has been through the process knows it isn't based on anything rational. So f*ck it, give it a shot, have some beers and hope for the best, if it doesn't work out at least feel lucky that the US has plenty of GA work compared to NZ or SA or europe so you have a few options at home. Good luck.

[darkroomsource]

feel lucky that the US has plenty of GA work

Now THAT'S FUNNY!

[soakingpilot]

Dont get me wrong its nice to see something new and fly somewhere else but the idea that there are allot of GA jobs in the states is complete Horse (*$@

[lilflyboy262]

Darkroom, continue reading what ragdragger just said. Compare that to SA or NZ.
NZ has a population of 4 mil, a tiny land area, and trains over 850 pilots a year. Try and get a job in that market.

Soaking, I'm very dissappointed in you. I give you some inside information via a certain person and you throw it back in her face. How serious are you in getting a job?

[soakingpilot]

inside scoop from who or what? sounds like a pm required.

tre sigh

[darkroomsource]

Darkroom, continue reading what ragdragger just said. Compare that to SA or NZ.
NZ has a population of 4 mil, a tiny land area, and trains over 850 pilots a year. Try and get a job in that market.

Not sure I was understood.
I said I thought it funny that someone would say theres a lot of GA WORK in the US. Sure, there's corporate, and that could be considered GA, but beyond that there's not really that much GA work in the US besides instructing. And that's doing very poorly at the moment.
I was not trying to say or imply anything about anywhere else, only that I found it funny to put GA and WORK together in one sentence.
The US does have a very large pilot workforce when compared to other countries, the results of a combined large land mass, large population, and large number of pilots who "fly for fun". When it comes to GA work, though, there's a very large number of pilots who "fly for fun" but have qualified for and obtained a commercial certificate, so whenever someone wants a plane ferried, for example, pilots come out of the woodwork for the opportunity to fly from A to B in a new plane for free (and without getting paid).
If what he had said was that there's a log of GA flying, that would be a different story, the US does have a huge amount of GA flying.
I guess my reaction, which was to laugh out loud, didn't quite come across in my post.
The last I saw, there are something like 60 000 pilots in the US, and something like 15 000 have a commercial, and 8 000 are working.
Noone knows how many of the remaining 7 000 are looking for work.

[Solid Rust Twotter]

The USA has a working infrastructure, making road, airline and rail transport relatively accessible and cheap. Doesn't leave a lot of room for relatively expensive GA in the charter and air taxi field. Generally Africa lacks that infrastructure which is where light aircraft GA comes into the picture. As DRS has mentioned, probably more opportunity for low timers out here than back in the USA.

[ragdragger]

It is true that Part 91 charter work doesn't really exist in the lower 48, but that isn't what I meant by GA work. What the US has a lot of is flight schools, so the easiest way to build time has always been and remains instructing. With only a comm certificate options are a lot more limited but you have traffic watch, sky diving, banner and glider towing, and photo survey jobs to give a few examples. I am in no way trying to say that these jobs are easy to find, but that thanks to cheap fuel and lack of user fees there is a lot more of this work in the States than in NZ, SA, Aus, or even Europe. The economy is bad, so even instructing jobs are getting tougher, but the economy is bad everywhere so you still have a much better shot back home than all those other pilots in Maun with funny accents.
And of course there is Alaska, which has a huge GA industry and lacks all of the infrastructure mentioned in the previous post. Companies there like 'Alaska time' but somehow everyone I know who has looked for work there has found some.
So as grim as things are, you can take some small consolation in knowing that all those other jobless pilots in Maun are probably even more screwed than you are.