Jobs in Africa (2008 onwards) Part 2
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Looking for a flying job
Looking for a flying job
Qualifications:
JAA FATPL (CAA CPL ME IR)
MCC includes 20hrs B737-200
also have 12hrs A320 sim
FAA PPL IR
Instrument time 150hrs
Solo time 125hrs
Multi engine 37hrs
Total time: 445hrs
First time pass in all flight tests.
Aircraft flown:
PA38, C182, Jodell112 (tail dragger), C150, PA28, PA28R, C172SP,BE76,PA34
Aviation Experience:
Ground handling and several years experience in flight operations as a dispatcher/flight planning officer long and short haul/slot coordinator.
Other education:
Degree, first aid, also speak 5 languages, martial arts.
Also:
Good flying ability and a sense of humour come as standard. I also make a great cup of coffee.
I am open to offers and available imediately. Permanent/emporary or part time work as flight crew considered as I am flexible.
Feel free to pm me, I would be delighted to hear from any operator.
Thanks and regards, Cessnagirl
Qualifications:
JAA FATPL (CAA CPL ME IR)
MCC includes 20hrs B737-200
also have 12hrs A320 sim
FAA PPL IR
Instrument time 150hrs
Solo time 125hrs
Multi engine 37hrs
Total time: 445hrs
First time pass in all flight tests.
Aircraft flown:
PA38, C182, Jodell112 (tail dragger), C150, PA28, PA28R, C172SP,BE76,PA34
Aviation Experience:
Ground handling and several years experience in flight operations as a dispatcher/flight planning officer long and short haul/slot coordinator.
Other education:
Degree, first aid, also speak 5 languages, martial arts.
Also:
Good flying ability and a sense of humour come as standard. I also make a great cup of coffee.
I am open to offers and available imediately. Permanent/emporary or part time work as flight crew considered as I am flexible.
Feel free to pm me, I would be delighted to hear from any operator.
Thanks and regards, Cessnagirl
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4runner. Hail to you.
So what have we here? A case of the inverted green eyed monster? Not much decorous about that quite rude post of yours and certainly very uncharitable and dismissive to all those who have not had quite your great good fortune.
Some out there become flight instructors and slog away, sometimes training the untrainable, until that first twin job comes along. After that, the long hard dirty turbo prop winters until something better, jet and all. That is what happened to the poor little Hammer. No winging off to the USA for an FAA licence, the easy route of course to international jet charter stardom if that's the route one wants. Some pilots fly F27s without auto pilots through Norwegian winters. That's just fine fun too although there can be the odd early when things seem a little hard on the ice in Bergen.
Others seem to have all the luck and end up with three type ratings, all paid for by someone else, and fly jet aircraft with an ecological footprint so hooorrendous that it takes a type rating in dollars to tank it. A similar process of the logic as demonstrated in the earlier post would argue that three type ratings on the licence of one man could be said to screw several other pilots out of a job on the other two types.
Some other wannabees, who have not eneded up with their bottoms in the brandy butter, think of commiting their hard earned moolah on buying a type rating. Then they hope to get a job using that type rating as an entry chip to the table. Usually I think that they fail in this gambling endeavour. That is hardly flying for free although it might be shoving more money down the casino way. Whether such an expense is an extension of basic training in the commercial airline business of today and so permissible without the transforming of the pilot into a hobbyist is perhaps a different argument. But to call those less fortunate than oneself in this respect, non professional expensive hobbyists, manifests an arrogance which some might find disturbing in the cockpit. Think I would prefer the self achiever who has sweated his mortgage for his position as an F/O than one into whose lap everything has miraculously fallen. Such a stupid Anglo Saxon phrase, 'nuff said', but perhaps in this case.......?
So what have we here? A case of the inverted green eyed monster? Not much decorous about that quite rude post of yours and certainly very uncharitable and dismissive to all those who have not had quite your great good fortune.
Some out there become flight instructors and slog away, sometimes training the untrainable, until that first twin job comes along. After that, the long hard dirty turbo prop winters until something better, jet and all. That is what happened to the poor little Hammer. No winging off to the USA for an FAA licence, the easy route of course to international jet charter stardom if that's the route one wants. Some pilots fly F27s without auto pilots through Norwegian winters. That's just fine fun too although there can be the odd early when things seem a little hard on the ice in Bergen.
Others seem to have all the luck and end up with three type ratings, all paid for by someone else, and fly jet aircraft with an ecological footprint so hooorrendous that it takes a type rating in dollars to tank it. A similar process of the logic as demonstrated in the earlier post would argue that three type ratings on the licence of one man could be said to screw several other pilots out of a job on the other two types.
Some other wannabees, who have not eneded up with their bottoms in the brandy butter, think of commiting their hard earned moolah on buying a type rating. Then they hope to get a job using that type rating as an entry chip to the table. Usually I think that they fail in this gambling endeavour. That is hardly flying for free although it might be shoving more money down the casino way. Whether such an expense is an extension of basic training in the commercial airline business of today and so permissible without the transforming of the pilot into a hobbyist is perhaps a different argument. But to call those less fortunate than oneself in this respect, non professional expensive hobbyists, manifests an arrogance which some might find disturbing in the cockpit. Think I would prefer the self achiever who has sweated his mortgage for his position as an F/O than one into whose lap everything has miraculously fallen. Such a stupid Anglo Saxon phrase, 'nuff said', but perhaps in this case.......?
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Not as much as the thought of you flying around the bush in flip flops.
But perhaps we had better get back to jobs in Africa, so I am available and with impeccable credentials, part time contract preferred but would not accept job putting plastic aircraft in to cornflake packets.
But perhaps we had better get back to jobs in Africa, so I am available and with impeccable credentials, part time contract preferred but would not accept job putting plastic aircraft in to cornflake packets.
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ok so once again back to the topic... im going to be out of a job as of 15 May...contract is up.
coming to africa in May... bad time to show up? worth trying at all?
now im sitting around 1200TT and 1000PIC....in single pistons...
coming to africa in May... bad time to show up? worth trying at all?
now im sitting around 1200TT and 1000PIC....in single pistons...
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LOL! The ecological footprint of my jet? Soooo, you're not flying a shiny jet because of the ecological ramifications? Hahaha, you're what we in all fields from all english speaking countries as "full of it". So, here's a pilot that won't fly a jet due to his moral objections. Right, look at this guys' previous posts. He opposes airline crew who are seated in business class because he is a "large" shareholder in many airlines. No pilot would object to his fellow brethren sitting in business class. Unless of course they are a) management, b) militantly upper crust douche bag, c) a recreational pilot, or d) totally full of you know what. So if you're morally opposed to jet traffic, why are you invested in said ventures that operate these greenhouse gas emitters? Something doesn't add up here Dere Hammer.
I know something that does add up though. The average SUV in Africa probably gets 15 mpg. So let's say we go from Nairobi to Entebbe, a distance of approximately 400 nm or 460 sm. Now, no road in Africa is particularly straight so the actual driving distance is about 600 sm(at least) and at 15 mpg, this would equal at least 40 gallons of fuel(from experience). Now, instead of taking your own black smoke blowing, non emission controlled diesel, we take a smog belching jet. This jet will carry 75 passengers and make this journey in about an hour as opposed to my Land Cruisers' 16. The jet will burn just over 3000 gallons for the journey(also from experience), which equals a net fuel burn of 40 gallons per person for this journey. So your point regarding the jets' ecological footprint as greater than the other means of transportation is a moot point. More to the point, I think that perhaps you're a little jealous and what hip hop culture refers to as a "hater".
As for my level of experience and things just "falling" into my lap, I think you're a little off base. Nothing has fallen into my lap, this was kind of the point of my previous posts. Some people expect things to fall into their laps or to speed up the process and not pay their dues. I paid for a majority of my flight training from working in Alaska doing a job that is now a reality show on the Discovery Channel(Stella Maris, Seward, AK). I gained my first 800 hours of paid flight experience from instructing. I earned a good reputation at my local(international) airport and was hired into the right seat of a King Air. Once I had sufficient experience I got hired at an airline that PAID me for my training. Since I began flying, I have been laid off, out of work, bush flying, broke, paid, happy, sad, have ferried aircraft, walked the ramps at airports to look for work, almost killed by improperly trained captains and my flight students, had numerous inflight emergencies and just about everything else in between. Nothing has fallen into my lap. I worked for everything I have. I got my current job by cashing out my retirement plan and coming to Africa with a stack of resumes. I will not work for free and I won't pay a company for a job. This philosophy has worked well for me and I encourage others to do the same.
This IS a profession, we need to conduct ourselves accordingly. If you guys are looking for work, don't expect it to fall into your lap, especially now. You need to pay your dues, especially in tough times like this. Do you have a CFI? Many of my former Indian students complained about the lack of Flight Instructors in India. Get your CFI and work! Get on a plane and come to Africa, hand out your resume and bring a tent to camp in until you find something. Go to your local airport every week and hound guys for work and make yourself known. This is how my Indian copilots in Delhi got their jobs on the B200. They were persistent. Don't sit on your ass complaining and don't listen to guys like Dere Hammer. This is a profession. It's up to us to keep it that way. Oh, and Dere Hammer, if you've got something to say outside of the confines of this forum, you can tell me on UG655 south of Lusaka on the afternoon of the 12th. If you miss me there because you're too busy attending a board meeting for one of your many investments you can find me at Emperors' Palace in J'burg at the blackjack table with a Johnny Walker in my hand. Paid for by my airline and hard work...
I know something that does add up though. The average SUV in Africa probably gets 15 mpg. So let's say we go from Nairobi to Entebbe, a distance of approximately 400 nm or 460 sm. Now, no road in Africa is particularly straight so the actual driving distance is about 600 sm(at least) and at 15 mpg, this would equal at least 40 gallons of fuel(from experience). Now, instead of taking your own black smoke blowing, non emission controlled diesel, we take a smog belching jet. This jet will carry 75 passengers and make this journey in about an hour as opposed to my Land Cruisers' 16. The jet will burn just over 3000 gallons for the journey(also from experience), which equals a net fuel burn of 40 gallons per person for this journey. So your point regarding the jets' ecological footprint as greater than the other means of transportation is a moot point. More to the point, I think that perhaps you're a little jealous and what hip hop culture refers to as a "hater".
As for my level of experience and things just "falling" into my lap, I think you're a little off base. Nothing has fallen into my lap, this was kind of the point of my previous posts. Some people expect things to fall into their laps or to speed up the process and not pay their dues. I paid for a majority of my flight training from working in Alaska doing a job that is now a reality show on the Discovery Channel(Stella Maris, Seward, AK). I gained my first 800 hours of paid flight experience from instructing. I earned a good reputation at my local(international) airport and was hired into the right seat of a King Air. Once I had sufficient experience I got hired at an airline that PAID me for my training. Since I began flying, I have been laid off, out of work, bush flying, broke, paid, happy, sad, have ferried aircraft, walked the ramps at airports to look for work, almost killed by improperly trained captains and my flight students, had numerous inflight emergencies and just about everything else in between. Nothing has fallen into my lap. I worked for everything I have. I got my current job by cashing out my retirement plan and coming to Africa with a stack of resumes. I will not work for free and I won't pay a company for a job. This philosophy has worked well for me and I encourage others to do the same.
This IS a profession, we need to conduct ourselves accordingly. If you guys are looking for work, don't expect it to fall into your lap, especially now. You need to pay your dues, especially in tough times like this. Do you have a CFI? Many of my former Indian students complained about the lack of Flight Instructors in India. Get your CFI and work! Get on a plane and come to Africa, hand out your resume and bring a tent to camp in until you find something. Go to your local airport every week and hound guys for work and make yourself known. This is how my Indian copilots in Delhi got their jobs on the B200. They were persistent. Don't sit on your ass complaining and don't listen to guys like Dere Hammer. This is a profession. It's up to us to keep it that way. Oh, and Dere Hammer, if you've got something to say outside of the confines of this forum, you can tell me on UG655 south of Lusaka on the afternoon of the 12th. If you miss me there because you're too busy attending a board meeting for one of your many investments you can find me at Emperors' Palace in J'burg at the blackjack table with a Johnny Walker in my hand. Paid for by my airline and hard work...
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I think perhaps 4runner, you should read before you post.
As said before, please, get back to the thread in hand, or can moderators please remove these useless posts.
As said before, please, get back to the thread in hand, or can moderators please remove these useless posts.
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Want to fly in Africa, Middle East
2000 Total Time
1000 PIC
1000 Turbine (PT6 / Cessna Caravan)
300 Multi
Canadian/ICAO CPL, IFR, Multi, night.
Diploma in Aviation Technology (2yr), Moncton Flight College, New-Brunswick
Available immediately
Experience in Gabon, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Including low level survey.
Many thanks, and please contact me for any information.
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1000 PIC
1000 Turbine (PT6 / Cessna Caravan)
300 Multi
Canadian/ICAO CPL, IFR, Multi, night.
Diploma in Aviation Technology (2yr), Moncton Flight College, New-Brunswick
Available immediately
Experience in Gabon, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Including low level survey.
Many thanks, and please contact me for any information.
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@ 4runner
NRB to EBB in an SUV = 40 gal at your calculation
NRB to EBB in I am guessing a CRJ or ERJ with 75 pax = 40 gal
Now as the E/C RJ is not opperating at full pax we can take it to be 60 gal/pax
BUT, if you had some mates with you in the cruiser, lets say 3 mates, thats 4 in total, that = 10 gal PP for the same trip?????
personally I would rather take the cruiser than the Nairobi mafia. May be wrong, usually am
Dog
NRB to EBB in I am guessing a CRJ or ERJ with 75 pax = 40 gal
Now as the E/C RJ is not opperating at full pax we can take it to be 60 gal/pax
BUT, if you had some mates with you in the cruiser, lets say 3 mates, thats 4 in total, that = 10 gal PP for the same trip?????
personally I would rather take the cruiser than the Nairobi mafia. May be wrong, usually am
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Job search
Hello Jetdriver
Please forward your contact details to [email protected]
I am on the jobhunt and would appreciate your input.
Thank you
Please forward your contact details to [email protected]
I am on the jobhunt and would appreciate your input.
Thank you
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Yeah, I also prefer my Cruiser, more reliable too and I get to pick the tunes instead of listening to poor radio etiquette and long winded transmissions. Sorry for hijacking the post guys but if someone insults my chosen profession and me personally I normally respond accordingly. Especially if said poster is full of it and himself...
So back to the point of this post. There's a lot of guys/girls looking for work on the continent. Are there any expats who have any advice? I just came here with resumes and a tent and networked. A certain operator in Nairobi is always looking for CRJ captains. Do any of the Indian guys here have relatives in Kenya that can help them get a work permit? Anything can be had for a price in Africa. A little backsheesh could help grease the wheels of work permit buearocracy I'm sure. I've seen a lot of GA aircraft in Lusaka, anyone know the deal? I hear a lot of foreign voices operating the Caravans in Dar...What's the dealio there? Anyone? Also, anyone in Delhi might wanna check with a certain charter operator that has B200's and Hawkers with bases in Mumbai and Chennai. They needed FO's last year, not sure about now.
So back to the point of this post. There's a lot of guys/girls looking for work on the continent. Are there any expats who have any advice? I just came here with resumes and a tent and networked. A certain operator in Nairobi is always looking for CRJ captains. Do any of the Indian guys here have relatives in Kenya that can help them get a work permit? Anything can be had for a price in Africa. A little backsheesh could help grease the wheels of work permit buearocracy I'm sure. I've seen a lot of GA aircraft in Lusaka, anyone know the deal? I hear a lot of foreign voices operating the Caravans in Dar...What's the dealio there? Anyone? Also, anyone in Delhi might wanna check with a certain charter operator that has B200's and Hawkers with bases in Mumbai and Chennai. They needed FO's last year, not sure about now.
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Warning: Nigerian Scam Pentro Drilling
Some old posts about this, but they are still advertising.
DO NOT send applications, details or money for any jobs advertised by Pentro Drilling - its a scam!
DO NOT send applications, details or money for any jobs advertised by Pentro Drilling - its a scam!
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Where the heck do I need to go
I'm getting cabin fever and really need a change in my life. I'm strongly considering heading to africa this fall if I can't figure out something better here. Tell me, what do I need to do to get on anywhere in Africa. Where do I need to go.
FAA Commercial Single and Multi
I've got about 3000TT
About 2950 Alaska Time
Over 2000PIC
I've got about 1000hrs in the 207, and I'm closing in on 1000hrs in the PA32, where do I go from here?
I need a change in direction at this point I think. Something new would be good
FAA Commercial Single and Multi
I've got about 3000TT
About 2950 Alaska Time
Over 2000PIC
I've got about 1000hrs in the 207, and I'm closing in on 1000hrs in the PA32, where do I go from here?
I need a change in direction at this point I think. Something new would be good
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Looking for some help
Hello, I'm a low experienced pilot (Frozen ATPL, SE+ME+IR [close to 350 hours TT]) and I'll like to know from anyone who had been working in Africa (or working nowadays) the best countries to try finding a job. I'll appreciate very much any kind of help because the situation in my country it's awful and
people doesn't think it's going to be improved in some years... I love to fly but I can't find a job here right now and I've been looking for it some time (I can't just survive with a summer job the whole year).
Thanks a lot in advance and happy landings for all,
Eoni.
people doesn't think it's going to be improved in some years... I love to fly but I can't find a job here right now and I've been looking for it some time (I can't just survive with a summer job the whole year).
Thanks a lot in advance and happy landings for all,
Eoni.
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Jobs in Africa
Usually the best places for low time pilots looking to fly in Africa are Windhoek and Swakopmund -Namibia, Maun-Botswana and Arusha-Tanzania. These jobs have regular hiring seasons and you may need to save up a bit until the job vacancies are open again. You can contact any operators/companies initially by telephone or e-mail but to get a job you will actually have to go out to these countries and meet the Chief Pilot face-to-face and hang around possibly up to 3 or even 6 months to possibly get employment. Most flying jobs are on the Cessna 206 or Cessna 210 and move onto a Cessna 208 Caravan. Living and flying in Africa is a tough but interesting experience and if you make it you will look back on it as something unique in your lifetime. The places mentioned above have blogs on pprune-just look around. Also have a look at African Bush Pilot Blog.
Best of luck
Rico
Best of luck
Rico