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Air Mauritius - all you need to know about MK (threads merged)

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Air Mauritius - all you need to know about MK (threads merged)

Old 28th Oct 2004, 08:57
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"The cats out of the bag"
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Old 29th Oct 2004, 02:20
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when you say low pay , What is low ?
In canada average salary for F/O domestic airlines 30,000 U$.
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Old 29th Oct 2004, 07:13
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MK guy's correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've heard 319 f/o's are on about 65,000 mauritian rupees per month base, with the constantly depreciating rupee I think that is 28,000 us.
On top of that there is a housing allowance which covers about 80% of the cost of a reasonable bungalow and meal allowances which would possibly cover your weekly food bills.
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Old 31st Oct 2004, 19:09
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Apparently no good for wives as well. They aren't allowed to work, so get mighty bored after a while. I know of at least one bloke who left as his wife gave him so much trouble about being bored, no job, very limited social life etc.
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Old 1st Nov 2004, 09:18
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As a (single) Mauritian who's used to the living conditions, would pretty much fly for food and beer money and who really needs a break to get into this profession, this is a good thing...right??
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Old 1st Nov 2004, 21:43
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With an attitude like that your the reason Air Mauritius treat pilots the way they do.

quote: I'd pretty much fly for food and beer money.

This is the attitude that degrades the standards in the industry.

Go and get a GA job like everyone else had to and build your experience to a standard where you can apply for an airline job anywhere.
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Old 3rd Nov 2004, 14:14
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*Edited due bad attitude*

So, back to my question. Is the recent apparent exodus of ex-pats necessarily a good thing for local pilots?

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Old 3rd Nov 2004, 14:36
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Why would standards fall if there is fierce competition for jobs? One would expect them to rise....
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 00:32
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I understood your attitude perfectly, your one of the many that would work for next to nothing and degrade the industry for everyone especially your countrymen.
They have been fighting for equal conditions for ages and people like you blow that out of the water.
For those of us with families to feed and retirements to consider we can't accept conditions any lower than what they are in many companies.
As they say in the classics, pay peanuts get monkeys.
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Old 4th Nov 2004, 13:16
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Edited due bad attitude

You say that Mauritians having been fighting for equal conditions...with who?? Ex-pats?? Please shed some light on this

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Old 5th Nov 2004, 00:20
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My My, what an attitude, you should change your title from wannabe to nevergonnabe.
Obviously your not a pilot as you have no idea about the profession. Comparing pilots to factory workers, dear oh dear.

Both expats and locals at AM were trying to inmprove conditions within AM but have had little luck with management, they were too busy lining their own pockets and running away !.
The loss of so many expat pilots will have no immediate effect on local pilots, other than the fact that if they continue to leave at the current rate, which is probable, there won't be enough crews to service the schedule so will have to cancel flights.
As far as I know there are no Mauritian cadets in training so little hope of any new mu pilots comming on the scene unless you go and do your own thing and hope to get recruited... unless your related to someone in management then you'll have smooth sailing to a jet f/o's position within 12 months.

P.S you have no idea what jobs I've had to do or where I've had to work to get to where I am now, so I suggest you "pull your head in"
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Old 5th Nov 2004, 04:53
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thanks for shedding some light on the situation.

PS: I apologise if any offence was taken, I was just trying to get a point across!
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Old 17th Nov 2004, 04:19
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More resignations this week and not many takers for the 340 f/o positions advertised on PPRuNe, I guess in flight relief doesn't appeal to too many.
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Old 17th Nov 2004, 07:06
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Sad to hear that very experienced pilot's (like Staal and JC) are leaving.

Then again I can not work for a monkey myself ...

Pontius bru ... are you staying ?
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Old 17th Nov 2004, 21:30
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It's not just the money, it's the lack of command upgrades, they have a lot of very experienced f/o's that in any other airline would have been captains years ago, they are now leaving for direct command positions with other carriers.
A lot of the Captains on the ATR are also set to leave very shortly as most have been offered jet positions with other companies, it's just a matter of time.

Last one out turn the lights off !!!.
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Old 18th Nov 2004, 07:50
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Sad reality, yet there are many mauritians who have never had the opportunity to join MK for obvious reasons and yet are flying jets and turboprops elsewhere.....

Dodo can fly
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Old 19th Nov 2004, 15:23
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Can you explain what happened to the post that followed "dodoflies" post? It was here earlier today.

Did you delete it? I see you did edit it.

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Old 20th Nov 2004, 10:33
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And was recently awarded Best Airline of the Indian Ocean. All I have to say is well done. ImpressiveÖ

Thatís too bad if some great flyers are now leaving the company. Itís not a first, it happened before and it will happen again. But at the rate itís now occurring, I wonder what the aftermath is going be. The Phoenix is a mere legend folks!

Is it that upgrades would mean bigger salaries? Hence minimising the filling of oneís own pocket. Or is it that the outcome of upgrades would probably someday replace reserved positions? Yet, as someone mentioned before, management holds the reigns. Thatís another nuisance that degrades the industry. Excessive power always results in the complete downfall of the dynasty.

And yes, very strange that they donít favor their own countrymen. I wonder whatís the real reason behind this? Even we expats arenít able to explain this. Especially with those willing to fly for food and beer onlyÖOne would see the word Ďprofití in big capital letters! Could be another subject of an interesting post. Let there be light once and for all!

About time someone grabs a broom and sweeps all that dust that has been around for far too long.

Echoes will always be there.
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Old 21st Nov 2004, 03:35
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You must have ringing in your ears, have a look at www.airlinequality.com and see what passengers have to say about AM, a 3 star airline.
SAA won best african airline, who was AM up against, Air Madagaskar !!
My wife and I have flown with AM and found the experience totally disagreeable after being 24 hours late that is.
To the f/a's your just an inconvenience.

The question management should be asking is why are the pilots leaving.
I think the chips on their shoulders are blocking their ears.
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Old 5th Dec 2004, 05:01
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Air Mauritius proposal

This is part of a memo to flight crew from Air Mauritius management;
All MOU's (memorandum of understanding) be signed for a period of 5 years.
The world of airlines is in turmoil and both nationally and internationally the company is going to face increased competition. Fifth freedom rights are going to be the order of the day. The staunch support we have secured from government cannot be expected to continue for long as the government itself is under pressure and threat to open its skies because of globalisation trends and initiatives.

All over the airlines world, the news has not been good. Job losses, salary cuts, Pilot wage concessions to management is the growing mantra.
In order to ensure stability as the company mobilizes itself against these EXTERNAL forces, costs within the company due to INTERNAL cause need to be contained, if not curtailed.

Amazing, do these clowns really expect thier flight crews to believe this.
I don't think their cheif pilots and ftm's have handed back thier new european company cars yet !!.

Air Mauritius management, take a look outside your crappy little 3rd world island, most other airlines are doing very well thank you, thats why your losing 5 pilots or more each month.!!

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