South African Airways hiring / expanding this year?
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I heard the same thing about the guys resigning from Comair,apparently they have their letter of appointments confirmed this time.Heard they may take as many as 40 new guys/girls as the rest of the shortage will be filled by the cadets.Apparently the return of the A340's aswell as as the A320's has sparked the move along with the planning for 2010 World Cup.Lets hold thumbs as this surely may be the very last oppurtunity for white males to crack the nod.Not entirely sure if they're going to start phoning for interviews or have a standby list already,all I know is that cellphone is permanently charged and always on!!
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South African Airways hiring / expanding this year?
So 3 cadets from SAX, a male capt and a female f/o (from SAX as well), and a capt from Link started yesterday at SAA. Congratulations to them all!
Does anyone have any more info when SAA will hire again? And what sort of numbers they’re looking at?
Does anyone have any more info when SAA will hire again? And what sort of numbers they’re looking at?
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SA Airlines hiring / expanding this year?
Trying to get an estimate of how many positions will be available in 2007 in South Africa.
Rumours are SAA want 88 new pilots.
SAX wants 18.
AvStar (737's) wants 8.
Mango ?? expansion plans for another 3 738's, plus some of the older ex-SAA captains retiring (again)..estimate Mango want 20.
Nationwide are losing some older guys too - they will need at least 12.
1-Time? Safair are looking too.
All up are we looking at about 150 positions for medium-jet rated guys in 2007?
Salaries should be rising with demand - if the operators who aren't paying enough don't brighten up their act they will be horribly light-handed with regards to experienced crew.
Which leads to the question - what are they paying (basics without S&T)?
SAA - 738 F/O R45k Capt R65k
1-Time F/O R20k Capt R38k
Safair F/O R21K Capt R45k
Nationwide F/O R12k Capt R36k
Mango F/O R27.5k Capt R45k
SAX F/O R18k Capt R32K
Airquarius F/O R13k Capt R25k
Link F/O R20k Capt R28k
Some are going to have to increase pretty drastically or else their training and insurance bills (due to inexperienced crew) will soar...
Rumours are SAA want 88 new pilots.
SAX wants 18.
AvStar (737's) wants 8.
Mango ?? expansion plans for another 3 738's, plus some of the older ex-SAA captains retiring (again)..estimate Mango want 20.
Nationwide are losing some older guys too - they will need at least 12.
1-Time? Safair are looking too.
All up are we looking at about 150 positions for medium-jet rated guys in 2007?
Salaries should be rising with demand - if the operators who aren't paying enough don't brighten up their act they will be horribly light-handed with regards to experienced crew.
Which leads to the question - what are they paying (basics without S&T)?
SAA - 738 F/O R45k Capt R65k
1-Time F/O R20k Capt R38k
Safair F/O R21K Capt R45k
Nationwide F/O R12k Capt R36k
Mango F/O R27.5k Capt R45k
SAX F/O R18k Capt R32K
Airquarius F/O R13k Capt R25k
Link F/O R20k Capt R28k
Some are going to have to increase pretty drastically or else their training and insurance bills (due to inexperienced crew) will soar...
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Which leads to the question - what are they paying (basics without S&T)?
SAA - 738 F/O R45k Capt R65k
1-Time F/O R20k Capt R38k
Safair F/O R21K Capt R45k
Nationwide F/O R12k Capt R36k
Mango F/O R27.5k Capt R45k
SAX F/O R18k Capt R32K
Airquarius F/O R13k Capt R25k
Link F/O R20k Capt R28k
SAA - 738 F/O R45k Capt R65k
1-Time F/O R20k Capt R38k
Safair F/O R21K Capt R45k
Nationwide F/O R12k Capt R36k
Mango F/O R27.5k Capt R45k
SAX F/O R18k Capt R32K
Airquarius F/O R13k Capt R25k
Link F/O R20k Capt R28k
SAX taking 20 initially (just to crew current a/c complement), then whatever they lose to other airlines plus further expansion.
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Monthly basic salary gross including perks; not including any travel allowance/S&T's. Figures sourced from individuals at companies; bear in mind with seniority salaries are generally higher, I tried to post median figures.
If you have more accurate figures, please post. Lets get an accurate picture of SA medium-jet salaries.
If you have more accurate figures, please post. Lets get an accurate picture of SA medium-jet salaries.
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And....Comair???
Also hiring like mad this year as several guys moving on!
JG1...I think your figures are a litle outdated and if you search this forum you'll find a whole thread on local airlines salaries.
Seek and ye shall find
Also hiring like mad this year as several guys moving on!
JG1...I think your figures are a litle outdated and if you search this forum you'll find a whole thread on local airlines salaries.
Seek and ye shall find
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A search revealed 6 threads.
2006 threads :
Beechbum: Unless some one else can verify....
1. SAA F/O - >20K/month
2. Comair - <20k/month
3. SA Airlink - <20k/month
4. SA Express - ?
5. Nationwide 72/73 - <20k/month
6. 1 Time - >20k/month
Nugpot : I have access to the scales of various airlines (excluding 1Time), and I can vouch that at three of the airlines in SA, FO's can take home more than R20k per month.
In fact, if you have an ATP, you will take home >R20k/month within 3 years of joining at all three.
2004 threads :
Red8 : Our cojos (no airline given) earn between 12-18k a month. I guess that is not really in the peanut category, but still one always wonders if the grass IS greener....
Yang : Monthly Gross salaries plus S & T's:
Airlink: co pilot: R 13 000 Capt: R21 000
Express: Co pilot: R 15 500 Capt: R23 000
Nationwide: Co Pilot: R 10 500, Capt: R18 000
Comair: Co Pilot: R 16 000, Capt: R 26 000
Barellroll : The Nationwide salary for captains are about R23000 before tax.
At Airlink a few years ago, some guys got command after 3-4 months, but at the moment it is closer to 3-4 years. The command salary there is also about R24000 before tax.
The threads weren't very specific about figures, seems the guys are shy.
Knowing your market value can only be beneficial to you! So, don't be shy, stick together, post the salaries you know guys are earning, F/O's and Captains, at each company and lets get an idea of what we are worth and what we could be earning. Give yourselves some ammunition when it comes to that salary-increase / interview.
If 150 new medium jet jobs are going in 2007, then the companies are going to have to stump up the industry average plus more if they are going to attract / keep qualified pilots.
Nugpot, if you do have salary scales, please PM me with them, it would be much appreciated, tx.
2006 threads :
Beechbum: Unless some one else can verify....
1. SAA F/O - >20K/month
2. Comair - <20k/month
3. SA Airlink - <20k/month
4. SA Express - ?
5. Nationwide 72/73 - <20k/month
6. 1 Time - >20k/month
Nugpot : I have access to the scales of various airlines (excluding 1Time), and I can vouch that at three of the airlines in SA, FO's can take home more than R20k per month.
In fact, if you have an ATP, you will take home >R20k/month within 3 years of joining at all three.
2004 threads :
Red8 : Our cojos (no airline given) earn between 12-18k a month. I guess that is not really in the peanut category, but still one always wonders if the grass IS greener....
Yang : Monthly Gross salaries plus S & T's:
Airlink: co pilot: R 13 000 Capt: R21 000
Express: Co pilot: R 15 500 Capt: R23 000
Nationwide: Co Pilot: R 10 500, Capt: R18 000
Comair: Co Pilot: R 16 000, Capt: R 26 000
Barellroll : The Nationwide salary for captains are about R23000 before tax.
At Airlink a few years ago, some guys got command after 3-4 months, but at the moment it is closer to 3-4 years. The command salary there is also about R24000 before tax.
The threads weren't very specific about figures, seems the guys are shy.
Knowing your market value can only be beneficial to you! So, don't be shy, stick together, post the salaries you know guys are earning, F/O's and Captains, at each company and lets get an idea of what we are worth and what we could be earning. Give yourselves some ammunition when it comes to that salary-increase / interview.
If 150 new medium jet jobs are going in 2007, then the companies are going to have to stump up the industry average plus more if they are going to attract / keep qualified pilots.
Nugpot, if you do have salary scales, please PM me with them, it would be much appreciated, tx.
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Don't think it necessary to publish - Determine your own worth, as that is "who" you will be working for.
200 Hr CPL's - Hey, they'll even pay for Ratings and fly for CE @ R7000 pm.
(Because they can...)
Example: SAX SFO > Link Captain
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Safair figures are definately way over the mark. Or else management has a very flexible payscale and some of he loyal guys are getting sc%^&d.
Capt. take home = +_20K
FO = +_12K
No difference between FO, SFO, Comm, ATP etc.
Does not include s&t.
Capt. take home = +_20K
FO = +_12K
No difference between FO, SFO, Comm, ATP etc.
Does not include s&t.
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The Mango figures are correct for F/O's, some Capt's are on less, and the Airquarius figures spot on basics for new hires. Add another R13k a month S&T's to AQ figures on average.
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Don’t count on SAA hiring anywhere near the figures mentioned, although there will be some recruitment. Was in a meeting late last year where aircraft utilization was discussed, seems its felt that more can be wrung out of the domestic fleet- despite the increase in utilization we got out of the latest NW schedule. Read more aircraft for Mango....
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Saa Recruiting In 2007
Seeing as this is a rumour network how true are the rumours that our beloved SAA are hiring pilots this year in the region of 80 or so. 
If this is true give or take a few on the numbers can anyone shed some light on what they are actually looking for as far as qualifications go. I have heard some fluffy crew have been employed straight onto the freighters. If this is correct are they only looking at crew employed by other airlines or has anybody got a chance ( EVEN CORPORATE AND CONTRACT PILOTS)
Also what is the age limit , have heard a woman of 49 was employed.
If the rumours are true can anyone shed some light on the process of being interviewed at SAA and also if possible what is generally asked in interviews or what can one expect and who is normally on the selection panel.
ALL THE BEST FOR 2007 TO ALL ESPECIALLY THOSE TRYING TO GET INTO SAA
If this is true give or take a few on the numbers can anyone shed some light on what they are actually looking for as far as qualifications go. I have heard some fluffy crew have been employed straight onto the freighters. If this is correct are they only looking at crew employed by other airlines or has anybody got a chance ( EVEN CORPORATE AND CONTRACT PILOTS)
Also what is the age limit , have heard a woman of 49 was employed.
If the rumours are true can anyone shed some light on the process of being interviewed at SAA and also if possible what is generally asked in interviews or what can one expect and who is normally on the selection panel.
ALL THE BEST FOR 2007 TO ALL ESPECIALLY THOSE TRYING TO GET INTO SAA
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I believe the boss man gave the go ahead to hire 60 - 70 pilots this year. Whether or not it will happen will be anyones guess. I guess we will see in time. As far as corporate is concerned, I know of one starting who has been on the list......
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DJ you said
Interesting, considering many pilots (domestic and International) flew to there legal limit last year. From what I heard 88 pilots is the minimum they need to be able to operate the new routes and aircraft, perhaps you are optimistic that a more equitable distribution of flying hours between the various fleets and bases is possible, I would like to see that although the company has proved time and time again that they are incapable of such organisation.
Perhaps the company should consider how much efp they will be paying out in 2007 instead of hiring new pilots
seems its felt that more can be wrung out of the domestic fleet
Perhaps the company should consider how much efp they will be paying out in 2007 instead of hiring new pilots