Anti-Skid Inop

South Coast,

Have a look a little further down at the Nationwide crew shortages and salary increase thread. That is all thanks to the Lady. Admittedly Mr VB has an effect on it as well but the majority of the problems were caused by her. If you do a search, there was a thread on her some time back as well.

Hope that helps.

Q4NVS

Are you sure that she was not just the big "Oom's" foot soldier or gunner...

Do you think Uncle Vern will now suddenly start paying Market Related salaries as well as treating his Crew like Professionals?

I kinda doubt it, but do agree (by the sounds of it), ANY change at NTW is an Improvement!

Good Luck!

Woof etc

Her ladyship must have quite an interesting CV by now:

FTC, Global Flight Training, Nationwide....oh yeah, the first two are out of business - do I spot a trend?

I suppose theres always that BA command to fall back on - .

WildFrequency

Got a text message late last night, Her Ladyship was fired, on the 22nd Nov, and escorted off company premises....wish I had been around...I don't usually celebrate anyone's departure

JetPark

Last post makes for interesting reading. Kind of ties in with Deskjocky's post on 6th November and with which I fully agree.

777SandMan

The only guys smiling are the external instructors at BA/Comair - making a packet with training the new crew for Vernie! It is also high time that someone spaeks out against the retired SAA drivers taking up space of new and younger hires. Come on "old ", start spending your SAA millions and retire to Knysna! I hear that Lido flight plans the B767 around France so that the the SAA retirees can crew it!

Shrike200

The SAA retirees have had it up to here with the Nwide chaos, so it's not like they're hanging around anyway. Believe it or not, most of them are aware of the situation and sometimes openly wonder why the company doesn't tell the to go, and upgrade the full-time Nwide F/O's. The science-fiction ops manual that requires 100000 hrs on the Starship Enterprise before an F/O can be upgraded is also a problem...

The next issue is the idea of getting contract Captains in to 'tide the company over'. South Americans? Something like that....whoever they are, it's a far greater issue than ex SAA people, who can at least speak english! Maybe I caught the wrong end of that rumour though, it really is just a rumour right now...

four engine jock

I always thought she was a good ops managers (TUFF!!) You have to be in that position.
Just that some crewS are like babies!!! well most of them.

ALWAYS WANT MORE AND MORE, NEVER HAPPY!!!!

Maybe those expats will show some of them how to fly!!!

Well enough said!!

Good luck Mrs VB.

putt for dough

Is that four engine knob or knobbie

jeez i dunno, some okes are just arse creepers
and as long as they are around they bring our good pilot names down!!

four engine doos go play in the traffic and rather tackle maintenance
you wally!!

I mean really

Ps: I am in no way affiliated to CE.

Shrike200

Good troll, but I'll only give you an eight out of ten.

PissCat

Wake up and smell the jet fuel!! To be a Good Ops Manager for one, you'd have to be able to MANAGE... and by that I mean manage more than just running a company into the ground good and solid. Granted, she was good at that! not many people I know of that can MANAGE that single handedly! By all means YOU have her..... Her Lady????ship is all yours my friend. and no, Boet.... it's not CrewS dm ss! You can give her a job, she's gonna need it and besides with her Extensive CV she'll be an ENORMOUS ASSett to your company!

And for the expats showing some of them how to fly? Yes! Yes !Yes... Learn from their mistakes!

Ignorance is Bliss and you are in one helluva BLISSFULL Bubble!

Good Luck and good Riddance!

PissCat

Whenwe

Rumour has it that she has applied to SACAA for a job....... Oh dear and she was there before in a very senior position too!

This could be an interesting one.

Deskjocky

Old Uncle Vern can get who he likes to “tide them over” a couple of points bear mention:

1 –Foreigners, whoever they are, are going get paid in USD- lots of them. There are so many jobs for contract Captains in places like India and China etc that he is competing on a world stage- paying them is going to burn his arse, take it as a given that he will screw them at the first opportunity- we all know what happens next.
2- Lets say he does con a few unsuspecting South Americans/ Russians/Slovaks to our shores, he still needs to organise them work permits. Anyone tried this recently? One of the key criteria is that you must prove that the skills these folk bring in does not exist in South Africa
3- Then there is our dear CAA, for their licence validation…….perhaps he gets it lucky and gets all the paperwork in before the honourable Lady B takes up residence….

My question is will he learn his lesson before its too late?

nugpot

Can someone enlighten us to the command requirements. Are they that much different from the other established SA operators?

SFO

FOUR ENGINE JOCK are you one of the SKYGODS that has helped her to destroy the company? You sounds like one of them!!! Sorrrry 4 u.

Shrike200

I will double check, and maybe they are comparable to other operators in SA (but please bear in mind that other operators actually pay their F/O's enough to sometimes want to actually stay on long enough to become a Captain).

Anyway, last I looked (and it varies depending on which V.B. edited version of the ops manual you find floating around, perhaps I should just go to the CAA and check the approved version) it was 4800 hours on a multi-crew, multi-engined aircraft above 12.5 tones (sic. Yes, they really said/spelt it just like that), as well as something like 5500 hours total time. I could be totally wrong of course, which is often the case. The total time is perhaps doable, but the weight issue isn't really - you'd have to be an F/O at Nwide for 5 years to become eligible, assuming you hadn't flown an aircraft above 12.5 'tones' beforehand - and staying an F/O at Nwide for that long isn't really a financially viable option. They may change the tune now though.

four engine jock

Never bite the hands that feeds you!!! Thats what I say.
But at NW there are to many flight crew spending most of there time crying for more money.


ASK NOT WHAT YOUR NW CAN DO FOR YOU BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR NW!!!

Mr VB has been in the Airline Business a long time. And he will still be in Business long time after all the cry babies are gone.

Be carefull guys its hard out there in dark africa.
The grass always looks greener on the other side but its not.

keep the blue sky up!!!!
OVER AND OUT!

contraxdog

4 E J,
Do you know how sad you sound? Don't confuse loyalty with stupidity.
Fact:
If you want loyalty get a dog.
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
An army fight much better on a full stomach - Napoleon.

The sad reality is that the one of the basis principles of true capitalism states that I sell the best of my ability for the best of your money.

If you are content to be taken advantage of, it means one of a couple of things.

1. The ability(services) that you have to offer are substandard, or you are of the impression that it is.

or

2. The prices you are prepared to accept for your services are subsidized, ie be that a fat Spoories pension, or that it affords you a lifestyle that you crave.(like being at home every night) Then admit it! Don't confuse it with loyalty though, that is communism.

or

3. That you are a masochist. You just love getting shafted for "small dolla"

That is a quote that is only valid in the context where there is something you can be proud of. Being taken advantage of is not. If you feel that there is, I refer you to the 3 points I mentioned above.

Being proud of being "a Company Man" is the same as being proud of getting an affirmative action job. You didn't get it because you were good, you got it because you are "cheap an nhasty!"

So take your pick.

Shrike200

I still think 4 E J is trolling. Nobody can be so dumb as to post that kind of unjustifiable and illogical rubbish in public intentionally.