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Originally Posted by wheels up
Have it on good authority that the Saratoga barrel rolls quite nicely as well. What do you reckon?
I'm wondering too 
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According to me a barrel roll if done correctly is a 1G manauver, but my question is, is that 1G all over the plane or just inside the cabin?
Because I don’t think its 1G at the wingtips.
I’ve been in al couple of barrel rolls in about 3 different aircraft types that’s no certified for it, never done it myself though.
And we all know about the guy doing it in the Bell 407 at Virginia airshow couple of years back, anybody know what happened to him?
Because I don’t think its 1G at the wingtips.
I’ve been in al couple of barrel rolls in about 3 different aircraft types that’s no certified for it, never done it myself though.
And we all know about the guy doing it in the Bell 407 at Virginia airshow couple of years back, anybody know what happened to him?
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Originally Posted by Only
According to me a barrel roll if done correctly is a 1G manauver, but my question is, is that 1G all over the plane or just inside the cabin?
Because I don’t think its 1G at the wingtips.
Because I don’t think its 1G at the wingtips.
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Only is correct. Since the lower wingtip will be closer to the earth at 90 and 270 degrees, the value of the gravitational constant, g, on the lower wing will be higher. Thus higher g forces! he,he
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i also like to have fun, but i dont understand this debate.
since the majority of us giving opinions are pilots on here then let me put this to you...
do you fly at speeds above Vne?
i would bet all of my salary that most dont, even though the plane is built with a factor of safety of perhaps 1.5 and therefore could quite happily trundle around at speeds above that stated in the manual as the max speed.
why do we respect that speed, because in the section called LIMITATIONS it says that is the max speed, it also says in that section, LIMITATIONS, not approved for aerobatics.
why respect any of the limitations if you are going to break one of them?
since the majority of us giving opinions are pilots on here then let me put this to you...
do you fly at speeds above Vne?
i would bet all of my salary that most dont, even though the plane is built with a factor of safety of perhaps 1.5 and therefore could quite happily trundle around at speeds above that stated in the manual as the max speed.
why do we respect that speed, because in the section called LIMITATIONS it says that is the max speed, it also says in that section, LIMITATIONS, not approved for aerobatics.
why respect any of the limitations if you are going to break one of them?
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I guess I could fly above Vne, or slip in a beer or two less than 8/10 hours before a flight, or smoke a joint when I am off, or put some xtra hours in the logbook to help the old career along, or screw the boss's wife, or overload, or go with the magdrop or do any one of a million little things......
BUT to all the idiots out here who think its fun to fly upside down in a transport cat aircraft in africa cause you will have a better story to tell than the eazy jet cadet who never had the chance.....
SOONER OR LATER SOMEBODY WILL FIND OUT AND IT WILL BITE YOU IN THE ASS - and there goes the career...
BUT to all the idiots out here who think its fun to fly upside down in a transport cat aircraft in africa cause you will have a better story to tell than the eazy jet cadet who never had the chance.....
SOONER OR LATER SOMEBODY WILL FIND OUT AND IT WILL BITE YOU IN THE ASS - and there goes the career...
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Well treetop your name says it all - stick to microlights - and if someone was dumb enough to let you touch anything that carries passengers I hope they have explained the basics of liability to you!
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Quite lively here!
[Serious]I have actually heard of 'rolling g' before, in reference to an F14 Tomcat that was overstressed, yet did not show a max g above the limit on its g-meter. The pilot described how he did this, and referred to the dangers of rolling g several times.
Since the wingtips are being accelerated to a higher velocity (due to the rolling) than the fuselage in the same time period, they must experience a higher acceleration value. Quid pro quo. Cogito ergo sum. Q.E.D. And other Latin phrases.[/Serious]
Plus wheels ups quite correct reference to the force created by the difference in g due to the difference in distance from the earths centre of gravity, and we've got us some wing-ripping forces here! {please, somebody fall for this!}
[Serious]I have actually heard of 'rolling g' before, in reference to an F14 Tomcat that was overstressed, yet did not show a max g above the limit on its g-meter. The pilot described how he did this, and referred to the dangers of rolling g several times.
Since the wingtips are being accelerated to a higher velocity (due to the rolling) than the fuselage in the same time period, they must experience a higher acceleration value. Quid pro quo. Cogito ergo sum. Q.E.D. And other Latin phrases.[/Serious]
Plus wheels ups quite correct reference to the force created by the difference in g due to the difference in distance from the earths centre of gravity, and we've got us some wing-ripping forces here! {please, somebody fall for this!}
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Only lively here cause most other threads have become thouroughly boring - and since I practically have no life here in the hotel room all by myself and with the naughty TV overpriced as only the Europeans know how -PPRUNE is my only entertainment. Pathetic but true...
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Your argument above says it all. Thanks.
(Hope you are enjoying life away from the sandpit!
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However... all you out there who are interested in this thread, and worry about the g forces when a barrel roll is properly executed should watch this video. And those of you who strut your stuff, watch someone who knows how to show a bit of modesty! This is quite amazing! And for starters.... double engine shut down just for fun... no problem. :-)
http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/006784.html
Your argument above says it all. Thanks.
(Hope you are enjoying life away from the sandpit!
)However... all you out there who are interested in this thread, and worry about the g forces when a barrel roll is properly executed should watch this video. And those of you who strut your stuff, watch someone who knows how to show a bit of modesty! This is quite amazing! And for starters.... double engine shut down just for fun... no problem. :-)
http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/006784.html
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Originally Posted by SIC
Well treetop your name says it all - stick to microlights - and if someone was dumb enough to let you touch anything that carries passengers I hope they have explained the basics of liability to you!
What your name tells me is that nobody was dumb enough to put you in the left seat anyway, so don't give us lectures about liability...
Invest these 15 euros in that pay TV and wank for a while, maybe it will calm you down.
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Originally Posted by Treetopflyer
Wow. NOW you're pissed off.
What your name tells me is that nobody was dumb enough to put you in the left seat anyway, so don't give us lectures about liability...
Invest these 15 euros in that pay TV and wank for a while, maybe it will calm you down.
What your name tells me is that nobody was dumb enough to put you in the left seat anyway, so don't give us lectures about liability...
Invest these 15 euros in that pay TV and wank for a while, maybe it will calm you down.
I would not let you be responsible for feeding my pigs...
Easy now cuz....#
be very careful with the sh1te you stir here....
Oh wait you were looking for a response like this hey you derogitory
no good for nothing!!!!
Yawn ,am i the only pu
face that feels like i do aboutthis guys constant negative comments????
I think i need a pee on the treeflops head
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Here's one for everybody who wants to be upside down -
Get rostered for a real long haul flight - at least half way around the world.
When you get there you will be 180 degrees / "upside down" in relation to the point of departure over the surface of the earth.Brilliant!
What's more you can now fly your whole approach and landing upside down. Stupendous!
ANd taxi in inverted - and walk around the place inverted for as long as you are there! Fantasic!!
All at a constant one G. No violations of limitations involved!!
To treetop - How can I say this without lowering myself to the new groundbreaking depths of depravity your last post explored - don't go for that MENSA test just yet mate. There might be someplace for people who confuse plain rudeness with humour - suggest you go live there.
Get rostered for a real long haul flight - at least half way around the world.
When you get there you will be 180 degrees / "upside down" in relation to the point of departure over the surface of the earth.Brilliant!
What's more you can now fly your whole approach and landing upside down. Stupendous!
ANd taxi in inverted - and walk around the place inverted for as long as you are there! Fantasic!!
All at a constant one G. No violations of limitations involved!!
To treetop - How can I say this without lowering myself to the new groundbreaking depths of depravity your last post explored - don't go for that MENSA test just yet mate. There might be someplace for people who confuse plain rudeness with humour - suggest you go live there.
Regarless whether that was right or wrong, it sure made for one awesome video!! 