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JanetFlight 3rd Aug 2006 04:14

Superb B1900 Video in Africa!!!
 
Just look at it until the very end:) »»»
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbzwqIxt1q8 :D
Greeeaaattttt;)

beckers 3rd Aug 2006 05:11

Great Video?
 
Big up to the :mad: crew for barrel rolling an aircraft that is not approved for such a manoeuvre and it is only limited to 60 degrees max bank. Either crew not aware of aircraft limitations or just don't care for them.:=
I hope I never have the misfortune of flying that aircraft. It will be the crew that are flying that heap in a few thousand hours time through bad weather that will pay the price.
I have heard that a 1900 that has been barrel rolled starts to show when the fairing at the base of the tail starts to pull away from the tail. The aircraft generaly has a very light fuselage and I doubt it can withstand that sort of abuse for long.
I don't think that is a video to be proud of!

Shrike200 3rd Aug 2006 07:25

Well, I'm glad I'm not flying 1900's anymore....

Nice video, but I'm happy not to have made it.

FCS Explorer 3rd Aug 2006 08:19

isn't a barrel roll a 1G manouver? so, if executed properly the a/c doesn't know it's upside down and doesn't suffer more G's than in straight and level flight??:rolleyes:

Full of Foehn 3rd Aug 2006 08:54


Originally Posted by FCS Explorer
isn't a barrel roll a 1G manouver? so, if executed properly the a/c doesn't know it's upside down and doesn't suffer more G's than in straight and level flight??:rolleyes:

I was thinking the same thing.

Treetopflyer 3rd Aug 2006 08:58


Originally Posted by beckers
I have heard that a 1900 that has been barrel rolled starts to show when the fairing at the base of the tail starts to pull away from the tail. The aircraft generaly has a very light fuselage and I doubt it can withstand that sort of abuse for long.

BUNCH OF B*LLOCKS... :ugh:

You "heard"... I see... Well, tell me how "the fairing at the base of the tail starts to pull away from the tail" with a 1G maneuver that does not involve any sideslip??? And what impact does it have on the fuselage??? Can you please enlighten us with a bit of an explanation, or is the word you heard good enough for us??? :mad: :ouch:

Thanx

TTF

Woof etc 3rd Aug 2006 09:55

Barrel rolls are all very good, IF you know what you are doing and you don't lose the aircraft in the manouvre. A certain 200 that got severely bent in, uhem, turbulence on a dead leg comes to mind..... One of the ex Rossair 1900s was rather bent with visibly wrinkled skins, widely suspected to be caused by a similar manouvre gone wrong.

The prototype Boeing 707 was rolled over Chicago - aaah yes, those were the days. Needless to say the test pilot was called in for cup of tea and a chat. But he knew what he was doing and trained in aerobatics.

6-String 3rd Aug 2006 11:13

Lovely video. Looks like they had fun. Wish I was there. :ok:

Formally Known As 3rd Aug 2006 11:40

Agree with Woof etc and beckers.

Just like to add, the pilot does not seem to be able to keep the A/C in the centre of the strip i.e., cant "nail the centre line" on t/o and landing, which shows he or she is not in full controll of the A/C.

Suggestion they get the basics right, leave the aero's to the current airshow pilots and approved A/C and the low flying to the current AG pilots.

I wonder if the pilot had the brains to think what might happen in the case of a bird strike? The results could well have been fatal.

Don't do it as it just ain't worth it.

6-String 3rd Aug 2006 12:34


Originally Posted by Formally Known As
... what might happen in the case of a bird strike? The results could well have been...

Once I forgot to put sugar in my coffee. Wow, that was close!

Anyone for another bull****.. I mean biscuit? :}

Ray Darr 3rd Aug 2006 12:53


Originally Posted by Woof etc
...Boeing 707 was rolled over Chicago - aaah yes, those were the days. Needless to say the test pilot was called in for cup of tea and a chat...

Captain Alvin "Tex" Johnston and Co-Captain James Gannett performed TWO perfect rolls in a Boeing Dash 80 over SEATTLE (at the "Seafair" Festival), watched by some 200,000 people, in 1955.

By the way...James passed away last month, at a ripe old age. RIP.

When Tex was asked the next work-day by the-then Boeing President just what the hell he was doing, he answered "Sellin' airplanes, sir!"

It must have been one heck of a sight to see in person! ...here is the video of it (long download...be warned):

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/photoga...707%20Roll.mpg
Cheers,
~ R.D.

DHC8-FO 3rd Aug 2006 14:21

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For the 1900 video, safe or not, it was a dang cool video. If your a pilot and like flying airplanes, how could you not get a little excited watching them do that? Nice video.

I think ive got a ferry flight today, I wonder if I can roll my Dash-8? Anyone ever tried it? Ill bring my video camera along, just in case.

FCS Explorer 3rd Aug 2006 14:51


Originally Posted by DHC8-FO
For the 1900 video, safe or not, it was a dang cool video. If your a pilot and like flying airplanes, how could you not get a little excited watching them do that? Nice video.
I think ive got a ferry flight today, I wonder if I can roll my Dash-8? Anyone ever tried it? Ill bring my video camera along, just in case.

true words, man. if the hottest piece of action you can get on your job is a visual with a 3NM final then a barrel roll is dream stuff. sometimes i wonder if i could leave FL370 top gun style: rolling in to some 120° of bank and .....:{

DHC8-FO 3rd Aug 2006 14:59

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Originally Posted by FCS Explorer
true words, man. if the hottest piece of action you can get on your job is a visual with a 3NM final then a barrel roll is dream stuff. sometimes i wonder if i could leave FL370 top gun style: rolling in to some 120° of bank and .....:{


Theres no reason why you couldnt do that, the question comes can you recover in time? Yea the most exciting our job gets here is flying into some shorter airports on occassion, if we get bored, we just turn on the radar and fly into the red stuff, makes it a little more exciting on those slow days. Ha. You can have some fun on a dash-8-200, empty, ferry flight. Almost makes us feel like were flying a jet for a few minutes.

JG1 3rd Aug 2006 15:04

Maybe the right hand side of the runway was to be avoided for some reason?

You can see the windscreen getting more and more dirty the more bugs are smashed...lucky one wasn't a vulture:uhoh:

Aeros into the sun? Antonio...:=

FCS Explorer 3rd Aug 2006 15:42

recovering?
a) the airplane - should be possible.
b) career in commercial aviation - ???

BUSHJEPPY 3rd Aug 2006 16:12

Recommended reading:

Article on "cowboy pilots" in the Business & Commercial Aviation Magazine June 2006 issue.

This sort of fun flying killed more than one cowboy :uhoh:

DHC8-FO 3rd Aug 2006 16:22

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Originally Posted by FCS Explorer
recovering?
a) the airplane - should be possible.
b) career in commercial aviation - ???

Yea if you start at FL370 recovering shouldnt be a problem, but your right about the rest of your tenure at that employer. Save if for your retirerment flight, what can they do to you then? Fire you? If your wife is wealthy, might be worth it.

B200Drvr 3rd Aug 2006 17:44

The barrel role is aerobatic, the B1900 is not!! irrespective of the G's pulled, that aircraft should not be rolled, it was not designed no certified for it, when will people learn??

FCS Explorer 3rd Aug 2006 17:51


Originally Posted by B200Drvr
The barrel role is aerobatic, the B1900 is not!! irrespective of the G's pulled, that aircraft should not be rolled, it was not designed no certified for it, when will people learn??

ok,ok, but can you give a sensible explanation why "normal 1G" is different from "barrel roll 1G"??:p


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