9 survive Caravan C208B crash landing in N. Tanzania
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9 survive Caravan C208B crash landing in N. Tanzania
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April*16,*2006
By ANDnetwork .com
Nine people have survived the crash landing of their light airplane in northern Tanzania where torrential rains and gushing winds forced the plane almost 400 km off its destination airport to land amid sisal plants.
The nine people on board the eventful Cessna Caravan were medical collaborators heading for Moshi in northern Tanzania for a conference, according to local English newspaper Sunday News.
****The newspaper said that no one on board the plane had got hurt in the incident which saw the light plane crash land in a sisal plantation field almost 400 km west of Moshi.
****"Nobody was killed but the plane has been damaged," the newspaper quoted an eyewitness as saying.
April*16,*2006
By ANDnetwork .com
Nine people have survived the crash landing of their light airplane in northern Tanzania where torrential rains and gushing winds forced the plane almost 400 km off its destination airport to land amid sisal plants.
The nine people on board the eventful Cessna Caravan were medical collaborators heading for Moshi in northern Tanzania for a conference, according to local English newspaper Sunday News.
****The newspaper said that no one on board the plane had got hurt in the incident which saw the light plane crash land in a sisal plantation field almost 400 km west of Moshi.
****"Nobody was killed but the plane has been damaged," the newspaper quoted an eyewitness as saying.
Sounds more like a diversion due weather. Everyone on board survived? Well done to the crew.
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Fuel
If they had to divert then three factors would have affected them:
1. Lack of alternate with fuel (pay cash probably)
2. Expanding weather problem
3. Large blocks of granite liberally dispersed around the country in a random and unpredictable fashion
Good effort for the crew
1. Lack of alternate with fuel (pay cash probably)
2. Expanding weather problem
3. Large blocks of granite liberally dispersed around the country in a random and unpredictable fashion
Good effort for the crew
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Wondering if the 400KM is not mean't to read 40KM. Four hundred is a long ways away. Go west and you end up south of Lake Victoria, go east and your in the ocean. It takes a van about 1:45 minutes to fly that far. Kilimanjaro is right next to Moshi with ILS. Sounds a little fishy, will be intresting to find out the details on this one. Whilst the country is liberally sprinkeled with Granite mountains it is also liberaly sprinkeled with airfields, plenty of places to put down and wait for better weather. Anyone know where they were coming from? or what time of day this all happened?
But they got it down so good job to them.
But they got it down so good job to them.
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Coleman,
Can you expalin why "well done to the crew". A caravan can be put down anywhere. As can an otter. Whilst not commercially preferable it is better than a "crashed landing". I have little knowledge of the Van but plenty in the otter (amongst many others) and the region, its problems and pressures. Is it another case of head in the sand attitude to accidents touched upon by Bushbolox in the other thread? The real question should be what sequence of events caused the aircraft to end up where it did to the extent that the crew had no choice and so became the recipient of your congratulations. Its arse about face my dear. A bit like executives getting a large leaving bonus when they have wrecked a company. IE it shouldnt have happened, either operationaly or airmanhip wise.
edited to add. Coleman i did attribute SRT's comment to you wrongly but the argument remians the same and is therefore directed to both.
Can you expalin why "well done to the crew". A caravan can be put down anywhere. As can an otter. Whilst not commercially preferable it is better than a "crashed landing". I have little knowledge of the Van but plenty in the otter (amongst many others) and the region, its problems and pressures. Is it another case of head in the sand attitude to accidents touched upon by Bushbolox in the other thread? The real question should be what sequence of events caused the aircraft to end up where it did to the extent that the crew had no choice and so became the recipient of your congratulations. Its arse about face my dear. A bit like executives getting a large leaving bonus when they have wrecked a company. IE it shouldnt have happened, either operationaly or airmanhip wise.
edited to add. Coleman i did attribute SRT's comment to you wrongly but the argument remians the same and is therefore directed to both.
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thrustucantrust - sorry to butt in, but I feel the "well done to the crew" is more then appropriate. It is very easy to sit on terra firma and act like a fundi on the matter when neither U nor I were onboard when it happened, the chap that was managed to get the plane down and all pax out alive, in my books that is a good show.
And very few aircraft can be put down anywhere!
However I do agree with you that more should be spoken about the lead to the accident. Why did the fan stop?
KESHO
And very few aircraft can be put down anywhere!
However I do agree with you that more should be spoken about the lead to the accident. Why did the fan stop?
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Dr27,
I spent 17 yrs in east africa, 11 as apilot, flying in every corner and condition of the region. You are correct, that is why i am now in scotland. It is safer in Glasgow on a saturday night than behind a PT6 maintained in africa.
Kesho I still believe "welldone" is innappropiate . Well done for not dying maybe, but not well done for being in the situation. I am fully aware of the pressures palced on young hr building pilots and dodgy operaters, but too many risks are taken voluntarily in that region in the misguided belief that they are bullet proof and the rest of the world namby pamby about aviation.Bush pilots are the best etc etc.. I know, been there ate the posho seen the film. I had a colleague about 16 years ago who flew straight into Mount kenya. He was such a good pilot. So why is he and his pasenger dead. It wasnt mecanical or bad wx related, it was another example of the invincible subculture that is obviously still allowed to prosper in a de facto unregulated FIR (s). I must be getting old because I look at my videos screaming to the Mara looking up at the Tommys gazelles making masai dive for cover, or scud running to nyeri and I think ..."silly Tw@t". Not for my own safety but i wasnt given a mandate to endanger other people with my ego. Poacher turned game keeper , so i know what i'm talking about.
Looking forward to a discussion on the matter and not the usual mudslinging allround defence adopted after criticism
I spent 17 yrs in east africa, 11 as apilot, flying in every corner and condition of the region. You are correct, that is why i am now in scotland. It is safer in Glasgow on a saturday night than behind a PT6 maintained in africa.
Kesho I still believe "welldone" is innappropiate . Well done for not dying maybe, but not well done for being in the situation. I am fully aware of the pressures palced on young hr building pilots and dodgy operaters, but too many risks are taken voluntarily in that region in the misguided belief that they are bullet proof and the rest of the world namby pamby about aviation.Bush pilots are the best etc etc.. I know, been there ate the posho seen the film. I had a colleague about 16 years ago who flew straight into Mount kenya. He was such a good pilot. So why is he and his pasenger dead. It wasnt mecanical or bad wx related, it was another example of the invincible subculture that is obviously still allowed to prosper in a de facto unregulated FIR (s). I must be getting old because I look at my videos screaming to the Mara looking up at the Tommys gazelles making masai dive for cover, or scud running to nyeri and I think ..."silly Tw@t". Not for my own safety but i wasnt given a mandate to endanger other people with my ego. Poacher turned game keeper , so i know what i'm talking about.
Looking forward to a discussion on the matter and not the usual mudslinging allround defence adopted after criticism
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thrustucantrust - Bwana you are too correct! Good topic as it has not been discussed enough.
The bush pilot (contract pilot) culture is very dangerous. Most of us have had to go that route to get the films and taste the posho, to open doors to that next job. Me thinks the rule of survival is one must know when enough is enough. One can only hope that you will learn fast and not run out of luck before you move to the better job.
I do agree with you on the statements that its always the "GREAT PILOTS" that are dead....pretty weird!
Especially in Africa one can say NO to that extra pax, extra kg, extra hour, extra leg, etc....as there is always kesho...But it is easier said then done when money is on the line. Also peer pressure does no good, and there is enough of that around in that environment.
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The bush pilot (contract pilot) culture is very dangerous. Most of us have had to go that route to get the films and taste the posho, to open doors to that next job. Me thinks the rule of survival is one must know when enough is enough. One can only hope that you will learn fast and not run out of luck before you move to the better job.
I do agree with you on the statements that its always the "GREAT PILOTS" that are dead....pretty weird!
Especially in Africa one can say NO to that extra pax, extra kg, extra hour, extra leg, etc....as there is always kesho...But it is easier said then done when money is on the line. Also peer pressure does no good, and there is enough of that around in that environment.
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Great contribution Hyena,poor wind up tho dissappear if you have nothing to contribute . You are right africa isnt for sissies but when you tout your business to tourists who expect a level of safety, training and airmanship, comensuarte with what hey take for granted in say europe you should provide it.
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I am curious as to whether this mishap ever occurred.
No body seams to know who the operator is and I have heard different stories of if being a "Van with no injuries" to it being a "5 seater Cessna with fatalities".
I'm beginning to think that someone is really making this a Rumour Network and is pulling our chain beautifully.
No body seams to know who the operator is and I have heard different stories of if being a "Van with no injuries" to it being a "5 seater Cessna with fatalities".
I'm beginning to think that someone is really making this a Rumour Network and is pulling our chain beautifully.
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don't wish to add to unfounded rumours but Mr Hearsay has it that a Fed Air Caravan noesegear was either damaged or collapsed in Kenya...Not sure if this is at all related or true for that matter
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No fatalities. Whatever led up to the incident is by the way and can be sorted out later. The fact remains that lives were not lost, whether by luck or skill and the crew deserves that acknowledgement, at least.
If there's something you know about the incident that makes it likely the crew was at fault, please share it with us....
If there's something you know about the incident that makes it likely the crew was at fault, please share it with us....