Flight Training with SKYVEST....beware!!!!!
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that old chesnut again...
I wondered when someone was going to mention this set up.
Well South Africa rules the waves when it comes to advertising a type specific service and not delivering it for one reason or another I say again words twice never ever ever pay up front for anything less than an outfit which is nationally recognised and preferably internationally regonised. I have sympathy for the author of the post. What is it again 12500rand for 200hr on a metro 195k for 400 and a ridiculous 295k (I know there are various extra's in that accomadation and return flights etc..) but really metro its old (it's nice) but old, dated and and you probably could pick one up second hand for those prices! (
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Perhaps in his fraternity he is reputed , granted I just wish pilots would stick to what they know. And let me take a guess he is 747 training captain and that 'seems' to count for alot of credibility doesn't it?
I have mixed feelings on this post I guess if 10 guys are happy and one gets jammed then it is still okay?
I love that Skyvest ad were it advertised a certain a/c and when I enquired sorry it's not available so why advertise it then or maybe I am old fashioned like that - Just as you wouldn't buy a can of beans an open it to find tuna fish and then take it back to the shop, so to you wouldn't advertise a serice and not deliver or what? Anyhow goodluck in pursuing your venture becareful that the lawyers don't get greedy too!
Well South Africa rules the waves when it comes to advertising a type specific service and not delivering it for one reason or another I say again words twice never ever ever pay up front for anything less than an outfit which is nationally recognised and preferably internationally regonised. I have sympathy for the author of the post. What is it again 12500rand for 200hr on a metro 195k for 400 and a ridiculous 295k (I know there are various extra's in that accomadation and return flights etc..) but really metro its old (it's nice) but old, dated and and you probably could pick one up second hand for those prices! (
)Perhaps in his fraternity he is reputed , granted I just wish pilots would stick to what they know. And let me take a guess he is 747 training captain and that 'seems' to count for alot of credibility doesn't it?
I have mixed feelings on this post I guess if 10 guys are happy and one gets jammed then it is still okay?
I love that Skyvest ad were it advertised a certain a/c and when I enquired sorry it's not available so why advertise it then or maybe I am old fashioned like that - Just as you wouldn't buy a can of beans an open it to find tuna fish and then take it back to the shop, so to you wouldn't advertise a serice and not deliver or what? Anyhow goodluck in pursuing your venture becareful that the lawyers don't get greedy too!
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In this entire thread some have failed to mention one thing. Please fill in the blanks... Companies are sometimes OK, its the folks who have thier hand in the cash drawer that we need to know about.
Who is "this Guy"?............................................
Who is "this Guy"?............................................
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Gentleman, you have lost the thread here, Ratings, Low hour co-pilots and people paying their last little bit of cash in order to sit in the right seat will continue to flourish, it does show that the individuals are really into their flying and that they would do anything to get there!!
However, this thread is about people ripping young unsuspecting people of and making false promises for their own financial gain, whether they are nice people or not. This is unacceptable and these individuals should be rooted Out!!
I paddled down the Oily River too about 13years ago, I saved up for a round South Africa Coastline trip, only to find upon arrival that the Pigs jad impounded My aerie and all my money was gone, people had paid their PPL's upfront and we all lost a lot of money. You dont know what it feels like to live like lake-scum in order to further your career, just to have your money stolen!!
Yes gentleman stolen!! So all I can say If you are foolish enough to go down the Oily river you do so at your own peril!
Be Warned
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However, this thread is about people ripping young unsuspecting people of and making false promises for their own financial gain, whether they are nice people or not. This is unacceptable and these individuals should be rooted Out!!
I paddled down the Oily River too about 13years ago, I saved up for a round South Africa Coastline trip, only to find upon arrival that the Pigs jad impounded My aerie and all my money was gone, people had paid their PPL's upfront and we all lost a lot of money. You dont know what it feels like to live like lake-scum in order to further your career, just to have your money stolen!!
Yes gentleman stolen!! So all I can say If you are foolish enough to go down the Oily river you do so at your own peril!
Be Warned
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the burning of skyvest continues
guys the burning continues with this dude that pretends to help
low hour pilots.
apparently the plot now is to have somwhere from 15 to 20 cadets
on the program.
which is fine, but the guys only fly three to four times a month.
thats only fifteen to twenty hours a month if you in the guys good books or if you bitch like a old lady with wet panties.
so you pay 200k up front hope to finish in ten months and eventually end up cutting your losses and quiting because it takes one year to fly 200hr if your lucky.
a agree with swingdog. watch out guys, do your homework...
low hour pilots.
apparently the plot now is to have somwhere from 15 to 20 cadets
on the program.
which is fine, but the guys only fly three to four times a month.
thats only fifteen to twenty hours a month if you in the guys good books or if you bitch like a old lady with wet panties.
so you pay 200k up front hope to finish in ten months and eventually end up cutting your losses and quiting because it takes one year to fly 200hr if your lucky.
a agree with swingdog. watch out guys, do your homework...
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See the latest post regarding the same person but now operating as Sky Haul. Click here
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It’s ironic that a name that stinks so, Longdrop, is supporting this joke! Swingdog you da man for bringing this ‘crime’ into the open, for what seems to be a one sided discussion. Nobody can defend this policy or the man. Don’t say some pilots will do anything to fly. Bull. What about the guy who wants it bad but can’t pay. Is he less keen?? Stop these inherently richer pilots getting into jobs ahead of others. Walk the walk buddy. I think people like Airlink Express SAA ComAir, not Nationwide, as they practice a similar thing, the sponsor VB’s race day fund, but that is another story can stop this. If these individuals who are to privileged to walk the normal route, walk into an interview why give them jobs, are these the hard working people companies want? No! So Don’t hire them.
That will put a stop to these dodgy DE’s that our CAA seem to support. But then again, I suppose as long as he doesn’t put JetA1 into the propeller A/C he’s using, he will be safe as far as the CAA is concerned!
That will put a stop to these dodgy DE’s that our CAA seem to support. But then again, I suppose as long as he doesn’t put JetA1 into the propeller A/C he’s using, he will be safe as far as the CAA is concerned!
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Bloodbrother,
First of all let me say I fully agree with what you said and now I believe in that 100 %.
But... I have already said this in the other thread, but you cannot blame the pilots who go for this scheme.
Before you start swearing at me hear me out.
It if fact that almost no airline will even look at you if you have got this "scheme" on your CV and the person who is running it knows this fact very well, yet when you go for the interview for this scheme, you are promised the world...
For an inexperienced pilot it seems like a dream come true when you are told that once you have completed this scheme you will be ready to walk into an airline, and that is what they tell you.
I now know that that is utter bullsh!t, but you don't know that when you start out, before you have really gotten to know the industry.
I feel that it is the responsibility of more experienced pilots to look out for their own, yet this person, who is a highly experienced and well known pilot in the industry bites out the insecurities and dreams of new aspiring pilots and that is just plain wrong.
Like I said, it is definitely unfair for some to do this cadet scheme and then get a job, but the truth is they probably won't get a job.
Quite frankly, it's disgusting how people like this is corrupting the aviation industry!!!
I think we should Carte Blanch on this. Old Ruda will have a field day with this oak!
First of all let me say I fully agree with what you said and now I believe in that 100 %.
But... I have already said this in the other thread, but you cannot blame the pilots who go for this scheme.
Before you start swearing at me hear me out.
It if fact that almost no airline will even look at you if you have got this "scheme" on your CV and the person who is running it knows this fact very well, yet when you go for the interview for this scheme, you are promised the world...
For an inexperienced pilot it seems like a dream come true when you are told that once you have completed this scheme you will be ready to walk into an airline, and that is what they tell you.
I now know that that is utter bullsh!t, but you don't know that when you start out, before you have really gotten to know the industry.
I feel that it is the responsibility of more experienced pilots to look out for their own, yet this person, who is a highly experienced and well known pilot in the industry bites out the insecurities and dreams of new aspiring pilots and that is just plain wrong.
Like I said, it is definitely unfair for some to do this cadet scheme and then get a job, but the truth is they probably won't get a job.
Quite frankly, it's disgusting how people like this is corrupting the aviation industry!!!
I think we should Carte Blanch on this. Old Ruda will have a field day with this oak!
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I agree SebasW. As has been said in many of these discussions, why then does the CAA, who moderates, or governs this industry, not, as has also been said before, in the name of safety, root out these unsafe leaches, who are plunging an already troubled industry further down the inevitable drain of disaster? Any CAA representatives like to comment? Surely if this is known and the CAA do nothing about it and heaven forbid people lose their lives flying in an a/c with this crew they can be held accountable for not upholding safety standards?
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My friends as having recent personal experience with ou Krokodil I can say that most of the cadettes stories are pretty much the same.
Some guys have alot of money to pay for this scheme and mostly the guys with low hours and no hard feelings because any one of us would do anything in our power to further our careers (and if you dont use all the resources you possibly can, either sex nationality or contacts thats your own stupidity). Aviation is already a difficult industry to make a living in.
On the other end is high-ish time pilots trying to obtain the correct hours for airline entry requirements, as you should know the goal posts keep shifting.
These guys are contacted for money earning jobs and try to make a living as we all do but get severley screwed over.
Try not bash the guys who try to help to help themselves in whatever way they can.
BUT if anyone needs to talk to some one who has been through the process AND has been screwed over or a reference to all the going ons of the SKY- companies I would be happy to oblige..............It will be the truth but not a pleasant that at that
Some guys have alot of money to pay for this scheme and mostly the guys with low hours and no hard feelings because any one of us would do anything in our power to further our careers (and if you dont use all the resources you possibly can, either sex nationality or contacts thats your own stupidity). Aviation is already a difficult industry to make a living in.
On the other end is high-ish time pilots trying to obtain the correct hours for airline entry requirements, as you should know the goal posts keep shifting.
These guys are contacted for money earning jobs and try to make a living as we all do but get severley screwed over.
Try not bash the guys who try to help to help themselves in whatever way they can.
BUT if anyone needs to talk to some one who has been through the process AND has been screwed over or a reference to all the going ons of the SKY- companies I would be happy to oblige..............It will be the truth but not a pleasant that at that
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The individual being discussed definately has no scruples about what he keeps himself busy with.Not long after passing my Comm.test i was desperately looking for work and I somehow came across him and asked him if he has any work for me,the reply was rather unexpected."if you are willing to do some dodgy work then let me know".
Needless to say I did not phone him back,seems like nothing has changed.
Needless to say I did not phone him back,seems like nothing has changed.
