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Cardiff City Footballer Feared Missing after aircraft disappeared near Channel Island

Old 21st Mar 2019, 17:30
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Originally Posted by Air Snoop View Post
BTW EASA is an Agency; FAA is an Administration and CAA is an Authority.

Sad I know but I thought I'd mention it
All of them according to ICAO are Competent Authorities. More sad.
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Old 21st Mar 2019, 17:33
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Altclara Aviation was only formed 11 months ago and appears to have only one US registered aircraft.

I will be surpised if they are operating it for public transport without all the necessary documentation.



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Old 21st Mar 2019, 18:37
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...nonetheless I can find nothing for this George Herbert (Lord Porchester fellow DOB 13 Oct 92) on the FAA database. It seems likely we have another illegal flight as he would require an FAA licence to fly his N reg outside the UK. There is a George E Herbert but wrong DOB.
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Old 21st Mar 2019, 20:18
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Originally Posted by oggers View Post
...nonetheless I can find nothing for this George Herbert (Lord Porchester fellow DOB 13 Oct 92) on the FAA database. It seems likely we have another illegal flight as he would require an FAA licence to fly his N reg outside the UK. There is a George E Herbert but wrong DOB.
Plenty on him.
Try, Jules Thin Crust Limited Company number 09880949:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/c...80949/officers

And : https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3455471.html

And when he is not pulling lager or two and slapping Manuel around the kitchen, he might be taking a few of his diners on a jolley in his kite.

Here is a picture of him:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...-a3455471.html
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Old 21st Mar 2019, 21:48
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BBC Wales website (referred to earlier) identifies G-KARE as one aircraft connected with these activities.

"The plane they flew on - a Pilatus PC-12 single engine aircraft with the registration G-KARE - is operated by a company called Flexifly Aircraft Hire Limited, based in Surrey and linked to a care home provider."

Company details identify Dr. Karen Graham as a director, thus the registration probably relates to her name. She appears also to be connected with Graham Care Ltd.
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 08:04
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George Porchester also I believe owned and flew the Pa32 that was damaged at Haydock Park last year when struck by a landing Baron G-BYDY, jockeys and trainers involved - more of the same perhaps
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 08:09
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Originally Posted by Gurnard View Post
BBC Wales website (referred to earlier) identifies G-KARE as one aircraft connected with these activities.

"The plane they flew on - a Pilatus PC-12 single engine aircraft with the registration G-KARE - is operated by a company called Flexifly Aircraft Hire Limited, based in Surrey and linked to a care home provider."

Company details identify Dr. Karen Graham as a director, thus the registration probably relates to her name. She appears also to be connected with Graham Care Ltd.
I understand it is dry leased so therefore it is down to the pilot or lessee to satisfy the requirements for anything other than private operation.

N88NA which was struck by a landing Beech Baron at Haydock Park is registered to Southern Air Consultancy at Bungay in Suffolk as was the Malibu in the Sala accident.
Any idea who was flying it that day?





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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 09:19
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Plenty on him.
But no FAA licence for flying N reg internationally is the point. I am not interested in his media presence.
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 12:03
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So in flying Sala, McKay has no role in selecting the aircraft or pilot. In flying Sala’s agent he must have been very active in selecting aircraft and pilot because he asked a mate to fly him for free as a favour. Credibility is stretched to breaking point.
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Old 22nd Mar 2019, 13:05
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Originally Posted by Baron57 View Post
PA46 and PC12 are not complex aircraft.

The term ‘complex motor-powered aircraft’ is defined in Regulation (EC) No 216/2008 as follows:

“‘complex motor-powered aircraft’ shall mean:

(i) an aeroplane:
  • with a maximum certificated take-off mass exceeding 5700 kg, or
  • certificated for a maximum passenger seating configuration of more than nineteen, or
  • certificated for operation with a minimum crew of at least two pilots, or
  • equipped with (a) turbojet engine(s) or more than one turboprop engine, or
That is why I said jets. The two aircraft you listed are not jets.
The N registed Eclipse jets however....
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 20:03
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Cardiff refuse to pay transfer fee; https://news.sky.com/story/emiliano-...-fifa-11674924
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 20:24
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15 million on the line and a load of grey area cowboys in the mix.... if it wasn't for two people dead it would be entertaining.
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Old 25th Mar 2019, 20:43
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Which means Nantes FC short of 15m, Sala`s beneficiaries are short of the tfr fee which would have been due to the player and his future earnings from a promising career. A tragic loss of lives and a financial catastrophe and for what, saving a pittance in cost of flying from A to B. Or was it for convenience, It must be said that had such a convenience not been available then the likelihood of the event would have been considerably less.
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Old 26th Mar 2019, 10:32
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Originally Posted by Chronus View Post
Which means Nantes FC short of 15m.
Well, if he player was still on their books, he will still be covered by their life insurance which they must have for key personnel ... unless it's like our corporate insurance, which specifically stipulates (I looked) that it includes "Travel by scheduled airline service, and by multi-engined charter aircraft".

I wonder how many Malibu (or Pilatus) pax have that condition.

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Old 26th Mar 2019, 15:03
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Yes, insurance is the key point to stress here. As I posted earlier our business insurance excluded aviation except as passenger on multi-engined aircraft operated on an AOC. Current rates for personal life assurance are about £12 extra (over and above normal premium) per £100000 life cover per month. So a typical PPL holder OR PASSENGER with £300,000 mortgage will pay about £36 extra per month or go without insurance cover.

I wonder how many Wingly etc. passengers realise their families could be left penniless and homeless should their flight end in disaster? I think the CAA which tolerates these illegal charters under the guise of cost sharing should at least point out the financial risks. In my 26 years of flying I knew of two such fatals, and in those days any form of payment was illegal except for licensed commercial operations.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 15:26
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some more reporting on the legal situation today:

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...tract-15941596
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 19:42
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Whatever the legal outcome may be, the most outstanding and critical aspect of this will remain as to how it came to pass that 17million euros worth was trusted to be placed in the hands of an unknown quantity. Was it just incompetence, ignorance, favors owed or know somebody who knows somebody who is, dare I say the name, a Jimmy will fix it I guess it will all be revealed when the whole mess ends up in the courts, sooner or later.
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Old 27th Mar 2019, 23:58
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Once again the club has implied that David Henderson was running a charter operation.

Cardiff want to ascertain the exact tie-up between football agent Willie McKay and Nantes, plus his involvement on arranging the doomed flight for Sala.

McKay says he contacted David Henderson to arrange the flight - an experienced pilot who, McKay says, had flown him and many of his players throughout Europe on countless occasions. However, McKay insists he was not involved in selecting either the plane or the pilot.

It's unchartered territory, but Cardiff want the following three questions answered:
  1. Who has liability for Sala being on a flight with a pilot who held a private pilot's licence which does not permit carrying passengers for reward?
  2. What was the condition of the plane?
  3. Why was it flying at night across the largest section of the English Channel?
Henderson has avoided the press but he may well find avoiding CAA prosecutors will not be so easy.

It will be interesting to see where and when the Gamston based Malibu was flown in the months leading up to this tragedy.


https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...tract-15941596


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Old 30th Mar 2019, 00:42
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Interesting what you chose to highlight from the article Mike.

I go with this...

Meanwhile, high-profile London QC Michael Mansfield has also been brought on board by the Sala family to look after theirs and Emiliano's interests.
MM is a total legal eagle monster.

All involved with this tragedy can look forward to their arses being well and truly exposed in a court of law. And that includes the CAA.
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Old 30th Mar 2019, 07:02
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Originally Posted by The Old Fat One View Post
MM is a total legal eagle monster.

All involved with this tragedy can look forward to their arses being well and truly exposed in a court of law. And that includes the CAA.
Indeed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-47749265
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