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Old 18th Feb 2019, 08:17
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DuctOvht
 
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Originally Posted by INKJET
Missed approaches or go around are frequently mishandled, the most common being delayed gear retraction, no big deal on what will have been a fairly light aircraft with both engines operating.

If if there was wind shear even without a warning I would delay gear/ flap retraction as the wind shear guidance computer gets messed up by configuration change.

TOGA should always be pressed other wise advancing the thrust alone will simply accelerate the aircraft towards the ground as it could still in in G/S mode, one press of TOGA ( TAKE OFF/GO AROUND) will give you a FD pitch up and thrust guidance and change from G/S and normally a 1000-2000 fpm rate of climb using reduced go around thrust, a second press will give you full G/A thrust and a ballistic rate of climb in a light and very powerful aircraft.

For wind shear escape after a wind shear warning (not caution) its all about terrain avoidance and advancing the thrust levers to full thrust ( FDEC prevents exceeding thrust limits) and pitching to the PLI’s ( pitch limit indicators)

In this go around and given the forecast wx covered an extended period I too would have diverted to my alternate, yes they might have got in on a second attempt but why push it? go to MAN refuel and put the passengers on a MAH LHR shuttle if need be.
Inkjet,

I’ve always assumed you were an airline pilot, and suspect that we possibly worked for the same company at one point. Other than the utter drivel written on this particular thread by people who clearly have no idea what they’re talking about, I’m not sure that I’ve ever read so much twaddle from someone who should seemingly know better.

Just because one company does things a certain way, doesn’t mean that they all do. Stop criticising professionals from behind your keyboard when you weren’t there, don’t know the circumstances and have no idea as to what SOPs the crew were working to. Your last paragraph demonstrates a staggering level of naivety.

The simple truth is that this was a well handled baulked landing/windshear go-around in nasty conditions that happened to be caught on camera by some spotters who want views on their website, nothing more. In the very sad world in which we now live, it was dramatised, picked up as click bait by other news organisations & websites, passed around social media and poured over by armchair experts. The last thing it needs is fellow ‘professional’ pilots to publicly confuse their arse for their elbow and start talking from the former.

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