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Old 3rd Apr 2011, 22:12   #1 (permalink)
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AF447 wreckage found

BBC News - Wreckage from Air France jet found in Atlantic
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Let's hope we can get some answers at last.

Anyone know if there is any chance of the FDR and CVR surviving this long in a usable state? Looks like they're 13000 ft down.
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Designed for 20,000ft. But who knows for how long.

NTSB - CVR & FDR
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Well, this is exciting. A little more info here:

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BEA Director Jean-Paul Troadec also told AFP that investigators have hope of finding the plane's black boxes because the debris area was relatively concentrated.
"The favourable news is that the debris area is relatively concentrated. And this gives us hope of finding the black boxes," he said.
Troadec said the parts of the wreckage that had been found consisted of "engines and certain elements of the wings".
The BEA is to publish first pictures of the wreckage found in the Atlantic on Monday.
"The BEA will on Monday afternoon hold a press conference to show first pictures of the plane parts," a spokeswoman told AFP.
The conference is to be held at 3:00 pm (1300 GMT) at BEA headquarters near Le Bourget airport, north of Paris.
AFP: Parts of Rio-Paris jet wreckage found
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what is the position?
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The main AF447 thread has continued running in the Tech Log section.

Perhpaps for the avoidance of unnecessary repeats of questions we should continue the discussion on that thread and the mods could merge the threads?
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Highly unlikely that any recorder would become unreadable even after contact with water so deep under.
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found

A large part of the fuselage, with bodies inside, the engines and undercarriage have been found
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Amazing news!

Never thought they would ever find it.
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First image.

First image as shown on the press conference.

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With Airbus and Gov. Co. funding the opps. Any data recovered will be dubious to say the least. IMHO this debris field has already been picked clean, "evidence" replaced and official findings written.

Call me a cynic if you will...but I AM.


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Subsonicsubic write...

"With Airbus and Gov. Co. funding the opps. Any data recovered will be dubious to say the least. IMHO this debris field has already been picked clean, "evidence" replaced and official findings written.

Call me a cynic if you will...but I AM."



Not that I believe in everything in the press or from various governments or official company documents but in this case I'd say you are very cynical indeed!

If Air France and the French government wanted this to go away quietly, then why would they still be out there 2 years after the crash trying to find the aircraft and its 2 black boxes?

They have nothing to gain from this prolonged search for it except find the boxes and possibl the true cause of the crash.

No extensive search = no found aircraft = status quo = no real explanation for the crash = the story goes away slowly and eventually dies.

Not the case anymore now that a big chunk of the aircraft has been found!
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With Airbus and Gov. Co. funding the opps. Any data recovered will be dubious to say the least. IMHO this debris field has already been picked clean, "evidence" replaced and official findings written.
AF and Airbus have gone well beyond duty and expectation with their investigations. Their determination to persist with the search in order to find the cause and hopefully prevent a repetition deserves the highest praise.
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"Call me a cynic if you will...but I AM."
No, I will go one better - you have now joined the "conspiracy theorists" who will find any excuse to throw crp around.

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IMHO this debris field has already been picked clean, "evidence" replaced and official findings written.
Incredible rubbish. As if that were possible... OK, so along with the 'fact' that US never went to the moon, the 9/11 attack aircraft were holograms, and Elvis is living in my basement, now we have a staged debris field at 4km depth. Right

Until the results are published, might it not be wise to keep the calls of "foul" under your hat? Once they are published, then let's see what the story is.
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More images.

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BEA report

found so close to the last know position, surely they should have searched there first, must have been with a 50km radius
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AF and Airbus have gone well beyond duty and expectation with their investigations. Their determination to persist with the search in order to find the cause and hopefully prevent a repetition deserves the highest praise.
Well said and I couldn't agree more!
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Pics included in video.

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com
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Has anyone read anything yet about how deep the wreckage is? The BBC report stated only that they had been searching as deep as 4000 meters, but didn't specify where the wreckage was found. Just curious.
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IMHO this debris field has already been picked clean, "evidence" replaced and official findings written.
So you're suggesting that Airbus has already discovered the site and removed anything incriminating before then allowing a search that it funded to find the wreckage.... fine example of Occam's Razor there.
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