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Cathay Pacific Cadet Pilot Programme

Old 25th Apr 2012, 02:09
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Perhaps I wasn't able to relax during the exam and made several mistakes by mishearing. Overall the test wasn't that hard
Hopefully I will have my re-test soon.

Goodluck
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 02:15
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Talking it is correct

Stage 1
- JKI Test
- Reasoning Test
- Personality Test
- HR General Interview (No Tech)

Stage 1.5
- ICAO English Assessment

Stage 2
- General & Technical Interview
- Mental Math Test
- Flight Planning
- Group Exercise

Stage 2+
- Medical Exam

- Flight Grading

I can confirm the stages are correct.

See you guys later in FTA.
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 03:44
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Originally Posted by adamctk
Stage 1
- JKI Test
- Reasoning Test
- Personality Test
- HR General Interview (No Tech)

Stage 1.5
- ICAO English Assessment

Stage 2
- General & Technical Interview
- Mental Math Test
- Flight Planning
- Group Exercise

Stage 2+
- Medical Exam

- Flight Grading

I can confirm the stages are correct.

See you guys later in FTA.
Wow, so you cleared all 3 stages?
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 11:22
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@adamctk

Incorrect, I got tech questions in my first stage interview.
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 13:49
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i had 20min with HR and 40min tech during stage 1
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 15:00
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Old 25th Apr 2012, 16:58
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Background: I am a HK local residence.

CX had tech interview (initial interview) in 2011 but they have changed since 2012 because they want to speed up the interview process, i mean more candidates can go to stage 2. I am not sure what's happen outside HK, SORRY

Without a doubt, many people are stuck in ICAO English (except native speaker) after initial, so not many can go to final eventually.

In this year, CX would like to hire 400 cadet pilots (75-80 local). The HR said CX will still hire more cadet pilot in 2013.

Work hard and good luck, guys.
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 02:14
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Originally Posted by adamctk
Without a doubt, many people are stuck in ICAO English (except native speaker) after initial, so not many can go to final eventually.
I would have thought the english test would be the easiest out of all the test conducted by CX but then again, this is coming from a native english speaking person.
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 04:49
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Email

I have also recieved
"Dear Candidates,

Thank you for your previously submitted on-line application with Cathay Pacific Airways for our Second Officer programmes.

Given this application was submitted some time ago, we ask that if you are still interested in the Second Officer opportunity, to fully complete the attached Flying Experience Requirement form and the Up-date application form........
However I have received no confirmation or email regarding when the next round of selection is in Australia. Has anyone with this email heard anything further???
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 07:36
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Cathay final interview

Dear Colleagues,

I have been invited for the final interview for transition course for SO.

I have some questions to figure out what to do.

I am a former french military fighter pilot with more than 4000 hours on jet.

Does anyone know if the passage to JFO is made according to a seniority list only based on the date at which you join the company or is the past experience taken into account for this promotion?

The other questions are:

Are all the SO based in HK or are there some based elsewhere?

What are the current time needed to be promoted JFO?
What is the bond for a pilot going through transition course?
Do you get a full type rating is you are second officer?
If you are quitting before the end of the bond, how much do you need to reimburse?
Thank you for your quick answer as my interview is pretty soon.
Good flights
Christophe
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 08:18
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Christophe,

4000 TT? Are you serious? There are plenty of better options out there for you. Cathay will give you low conditions, because you will be treated exactly the same as someone who has 200 TT (Other than the training time is reduced as it is only a conversion course that you will need to complete)

The "Forgivable loan" is just over 1 Million HKD. So if you left before 8 years, you would be liable (Although some would argue the legality of this, and whether Cathay would bother). You do get paid the balance in cash of what they did not need to spend on you for training, however, after the loan is "forgiven" you will need to pay tax on this. (Yes, the full amount)

There are NO second officers able to get basing anywhere other than in Hong Kong. In fact, Cathay are no longer offering new basings to any flight crew (Incl captains).

Current wait time to get a promotion to JFO is 4-5 years. It is based on seniority and therefore you would have to wait the same length of time as a 0 hour cadet.

My suggestion in the strongest possible way is to call them and say thanks but no thanks. You are capable and qualified to get a direct entry job with many other airlines around the world. Don't sell yourself short and accept these conditions.

To end, before anyone else tells me, yes, I am applying to the cadet program myself. As I only have 200 odd hours. It suites me, and works well for me. If you are close to, or qualified for other opportunities, go for them and don't sell yourself short
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 10:19
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2nd Stage

May 16 second stage anyone?
Please PM me: [email protected]
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 10:49
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Okay, I have an interview next week. No idea what to expect because this whole thing has been so last minute!

What exactly does the technical quiz involve? Anyone have an example question?

Also the aviation mathematics test, difficult or simple stuff?

Bleurgh! Any feedback would be appreciated. Looking forward to a little trip to Hong Kong!!
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 10:54
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Does anyone know if the passage to JFO is made according to a seniority list only based on the date at which you join the company or is the past experience taken into account for this promotion?
Date of Joining only. SOs currently doing their JFO upgrades had on average 4000hours in 2007-2008 when they joined, and waited 4+ years just like everyone else.

The other questions are:

Are all the SO based in HK or are there some based elsewhere?
All SOs are based in Hong Kong, and always will be. With C-scale, there is no expected base openings for such pilots - ever.

What are the current time needed to be promoted JFO?
3-5 years. 3 years and 11 months as of April 2012.

What is the bond for a pilot going through transition course?
1.1 million HKD / 105,000 Euro.

Do you get a full type rating is you are second officer?
You do not get a type rating at all. You get a relief-rating, which is not a type rating. The rating in not recognized by any other ICAO nation, and even in Hong Kong only 1/4 of the total flight time can be logged. There are no licensing requirements for takeoff, landing, or engine-failure handling. The only requirement is to, at cruise, a) get the aircraft out of a stall, b)initiate a drift-down in case of engine-failure, and c) initiate an emergency descent in case of decompression. A second officer is not allowed to be in a control seat below 20,000', and is not allowed to touch the aircraft contorls/autpopilot unless seated in the right seat with a qualified captain in the left seat. Even then, the Captain is to immediately assume control if anything out of the ordinary happens.

If you are quitting before the end of the bond, how much do you need to reimburse?
Linear reduction from 1.1million to 0 over 6 years.


You must be mad to even consider this with your experience.
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 16:36
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Applied for their CPP 2 months ago and haven't heard anything back as of yet. Ive been told it can take a few months the process the app so im not worried YET! Plus i cant update it so just got to keep fingers crossed!

Chap i know out in AUS with them at the moment, he couldnt fault Cathay!

Anybody know how long it is until UK applicants should hear?

Mike
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Old 26th Apr 2012, 21:49
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Originally Posted by VeroFlyer
Okay, I have an interview next week. No idea what to expect because this whole thing has been so last minute!

What exactly does the technical quiz involve? Anyone have an example question?

Also the aviation mathematics test, difficult or simple stuff?

Bleurgh! Any feedback would be appreciated. Looking forward to a little trip to Hong Kong!!
When did you get an invitation? How long ago did you submit your online application till you got the invite?
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Old 27th Apr 2012, 06:01
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Can ppl provide who had their stage 2 recently tell us about the group exercise and flight planning exercise?
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Old 27th Apr 2012, 06:04
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Date of CX first ever flight

Does anyone know the date of the first ever CX flight (Betsy DC3)?

I've tried searching for it but to no avail and I'm guessing its in "Beyond Lion Rock..."

Thanks in advance
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Old 27th Apr 2012, 06:47
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Does really nobody has an answer on post #4172

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