Flight FR1919 from Valencia to Charleroi begun to lose fuel in a large volume while being refueled and while being boarded. The news say passengers "hurried to abandon plane" Not sure if this was commanded by the crew or if it was an spontaneous act. The news suggest that "passengers ran away" The ramp was flooded by fuel.
This news link is in Spanish. You may use an online translator if you need.
Ryanair say it was a defective fuel valve that 'should have been repaired.'
Daily Mail type reporting although without the dramatics, they interviewed 'Miguel Angel' who knew all the answers!
El Mundo is a relatively serious newspaper, no doubt the gutterpress will produce their own version of 'millions of gallons of highly inflammable petrol about to explode as pilots walked round the aircraft with cigarettes in their hand'
A glowing endorsement of an airlines maintenance procedures!
I assume the regulations regarding fuelling at this airfield with pax was observed? I also assume the appointed fuelling supervisor was paying full attention to the fuelling right up until the point his/her shoes got wet
The fuel supervisor was readjusting his stetson at the time of the incident. His attempts to alert the Flightdeck couldn't be heard for the sound of the captain's spurs rattling off the floor.The cabin crew junior was too busy dosey-doeing on the ramp and failed to notice the stricken panic of her passengers.
Something like that I'd imagine
Last edited by Callsign Kilo; 23rd Aug 2012 at 12:01.
Silly me. I had assumed they use overwing gravity refuelling - surely that must be cheaper? (And no valves to go wrong)
Jock. Do you remember doing that in Francistown circa 1965/66? Barrels of fuel fork lifted (or some such method) to be high enough and poor flight engineer precariously on top of wing. I chose not to join him in a supervisory capacity
I also remember a refueller managing to put the entire fuel load in one wing such that when I walked out to the aircraft, it already had a 10 degree wing down list, the oleos on the left wing had almost gone flat and fuel was pouring out of every rivet hole. The airfield concerned was Sharjah.
It could not have happened at a better time. I was taking the C in C back to Aden!
From the Google english translation of the Spanish site, it sounds like an overflow from one of the Fuel Tank Vents, the NACA ducts under the wings near the tips.
An overflow such as this occurs if the fuel limit switch doesn't close the fuel valve when the tank is full (i.e. either component fails) - and is one reason passengers are told not to walk under the wing whilst boarding/disembarking.
As far as I can remember on the B737 you only get this situation when wing tanks are full. Now, if the crew on RYR doesn´t even have time between shocks to go to the toilet never the less to watch a refueling, so who to blame?
On a normal situation an eng. or crew member would be with the fuelling meanwhile the other pilot would be in cockpit getting the aircraft ready for next trip.
One would assume the fuel guy would be at his fuelling station holding the dead mans switch in order for fuel to flow! Hence would see any leaks or faults from his equipment pretty quickly!
As transilvana says the poor crew wouldn't have had time to go the toilet let alone supervise fuelling! Again a glowing reference for the airlines safety procedures, not to mention welfare responsibilities for the crew.
As transilvana says the poor crew wouldn't have had time to go the toilet let alone supervise fuelling!
There is a requirement for the Captain to nominate a "Refuelling Supervisor" which has to be a suitably qualified person and will generally be the First Officer, the Captain (himself) but could be an Engineer or another crew member who is travelling "jump seat". The Refuelling Supervisor is required to establish communication with the flight deck and report any problems asap. The RFS is, as far as I can recall, only required to be "on station" when pax are on board and/or deplaning or boarding.
In my 5 years with the said Company I ensured this requirement was strictly complied with and am sure that my colleagues did likewise.
This is totally off-topic but is a quote from the link @post 11:
the crew checked under the seat they were sat in, the seat in front, dropped down each of the tray tables then removed the seat cushions to check underneath.
"They're looking for something" said one passenger
The point being that we really shouldn't underestimate our paying customers...
And what tray tables are those, then? Subbing out again mick?
Anyhow... RYR is the only company I know that requires crew to take up station as RF supervisor, therefore going single-crew for most of an already rushed 25 minute turn round. Do they not pay the professionals enough to do their job properly? have I just answered my own question?
RFS attendance depends on the local regulations set by each airport authority. However RFS attendance is mandatory with PRM's on board. Remember that when your observing a 25 min turnaround, I wonder what ryan ops would say if you nominated that for the delay??