Identify this helo: Bin Laden compound
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a modify balck-sea hawk
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851Pilot has nailed it. (But where are the other bits )
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ml#post6428762
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ml#post6428762
311kph,
I read that the wreck was destroyed, most likely thermite grenades or similar. I doubt the F-117 driver in Serbia was in a position to have much to do with his wreckage after he ejected!
I read that the wreck was destroyed, most likely thermite grenades or similar. I doubt the F-117 driver in Serbia was in a position to have much to do with his wreckage after he ejected!
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Something seems fishy !
Hello fellow rotor heads. I don't doubt that its possible that some sort of quieting TR has been developed for the H-60 but something seems fishy about these two sets of pics. The one with the mystery 5-bladed hub is taken of an assembly of some sort that is sort of depicted to show it strewn over a wall. This wall is completely different than the wall in the other photos. In addition, the assembly itself seems to be not genuine aviation construction - it almost looks like a welded seam going up what would/could/should be the vertical tail structure. Anyway - the photos that are all over the press show the brick constructed wall and that is clearly an S-70/H-60 tail. It does indeed look like it could be an MH-60K because it has the Naval Hawk's foldable rectangular stabilators in lieu of the more rounded standard Black Hawk stabilator. Just as with the Marine/HMX-1 Presidential VH-60N hybrids, the "Special K's" were made to be shipboard compatible. ANyway - back to the main issue: that odd mystery structure just somehow doesn't seem genuine to me based on the wall - not on the viability of the tail design...Any other POV's welcome though - this is just my first reaction.
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The last picture of that "Fenestron" looking thing shows that it is absolutely huge, take a look at the guy to the left and compare...
Also, something strange about the hub, it looks a bit fake.
The line looking like a weld on what we'll call the tail boom seems more like damage to composite structure after a crash than a weld to me.
Also, something strange about the hub, it looks a bit fake.
The line looking like a weld on what we'll call the tail boom seems more like damage to composite structure after a crash than a weld to me.
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It seems the press agrees that this tail section is 'odd'
Top Secret Stealth Helicopters used in Bin Laden Raid
I am a fledgling pilot with minimal experience and the first time I saw this tail it didn't sit right with me.
Top Secret Stealth Helicopters used in Bin Laden Raid
I am a fledgling pilot with minimal experience and the first time I saw this tail it didn't sit right with me.
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Last edited by Senior Pilot; 4th May 2011 at 20:50. Reason: Edit image: too big and a fake, anyway!
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Since this is a rumour network, I'd heard a rumour from a very well placed source that the US Army special ops folks had some stealth Blackhawks since - are you ready for this? - the mid '80s....
Nice to see they were able to keep 'em quiet for that long.
I can only wonder what wonderous sights those boys have seen.
Nice to see they were able to keep 'em quiet for that long.
I can only wonder what wonderous sights those boys have seen.
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Trac, since when did Eurocopter make Blackhawks?
Maybe the pilot kicked in left instead of right pedal :-)
(assuming the rotors as shown in that drawing turn "the wrong way")
Maybe the pilot kicked in left instead of right pedal :-)
(assuming the rotors as shown in that drawing turn "the wrong way")
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So, now that we established they are likely stealthy blackhawks... The next question is, was this a 'mechanical failure' or did that thing get blown on to the wire topped fence when they destroyed the thing? Kinda hints at a tail strike...
Anyone? Mr. Coyle?
Anyone? Mr. Coyle?
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Just wanted to add, and yes it's totally off topic, but his million dollar mansion looks like a hovel. The construction is shoddy and there is a real lack of landscaping or any kind of flair to that place. Too much living in caves I guess... And for all of the trouble of big walls and privacy fencing, there sure seems a lack of security or true fortification to this place. After all, we did land at least one blackhawk in it. It will be interesting to see what else is revealed about this hovel of a compound. Makes me really wonder how much he relied on Paki intel for his early warning system. Just glad he's dead, God Bless America and the troops