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Old 18th Dec 2011, 16:55   #41 (permalink)
 
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Location of LTP6 data file

The reason the data file is difficult to find is due to Apple's decision to require developers to "sandbox" their apps. This basically isolates the apps from the OS as a security measure. Part of this decision was to hide the user's Library folder.

To find the Library folder in Finder go the "Go" menu, press the "Option" key and the Library folder will magically appear. Navigate to the "Containers" folder and within this you will see folder named com.coradine.LogtenPro6, within this folder there is a "Data" folder and this is where your logbook data is stored. There are a number of files in this folder that all contain parts of your logbook data so I would not recommend messing with them too much unless you know exactly what you are doing.

This is the path to the Data folder, replace the XXXXX with your user name.

/Users/XXXXXX/Library/Containers/com.coradine.LogTenPro6/Data

Hope that helps
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Old 18th Dec 2011, 18:18   #42 (permalink)
 
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Previously we were able to store the logbook in dropbox or similar, so even if the mac crashed, we had a backup. Do we have an option to back it up now?

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Old 18th Dec 2011, 18:28   #43 (permalink)
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Mutt,

All backup will be done over iCloud once Apple sort out the reliability of it. At the moment, the only way to backup is to locate the LogTen Pro file as detailed above by b737NGyyc and make a copy of that. It's not so elegant now, but once Apple has iCloud sorted, it will be.
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Old 18th Dec 2011, 19:43   #44 (permalink)
 
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Get a network connected hard drive and use timemachine, that way you always have backups.
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Old 18th Dec 2011, 21:18   #45 (permalink)

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Unfortunately you can't run v5 and v6 concurrently on the iPad as downloading v6 updates v5.
I successfully ran LTP 5 & 6 on my iPad2 last night, duplicating the entry for the day's flying. LTP6 has downloaded as a separate App, not modified LTP5.

As to iCloud sync/backup, iCloud ate about 40 files of mine on Friday. All of my Pages, Numbers & Keynote files have disappeared. Apple Tech Support advised that I wouldn't hear from them for a few days on the issue because of a backlog of iCloud issues from other customers.
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Old 18th Dec 2011, 23:13   #46 (permalink)
 
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I successfully ran LTP 5 & 6 on my iPad2 last night, duplicating the entry for the day's flying. LTP6 has downloaded as a separate App, not modified LTP5.
Ah, I think my problem is that I got the iPad version after September, so even though it was LTP5 it was technically LTP6.0 and when the real LTP6 came out (LTP6.01) it updated the one I had. They did it that way so that people purchasing it for the first time close to the upgrade date got a free upgrade to v6.
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Old 24th Dec 2011, 15:55   #47 (permalink)
 
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Logten Pro backup

Logten Pro for iPad is currently at half price on te app store (£27.99) so I am tempted to buy except for the backup problem.
I have an iPad but not a Mac so my only backup would be in iTunes I guess but I don't use iTunes ( dreadfully bad software ) I only use cloud backup. Does that mean for now there would be no backup of my logbook if I lost or broke my iPad?
How imminent is iCloud compatibility I wonder? Is it worth buying at the discounted price and hoping for it to arrive soon?
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Old 5th Jan 2012, 10:36   #48 (permalink)


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Too pricey

No way I am paying full price for an upgrade. Not even at 50% discount. I had paid for the full application once, and I am actually very happy with the features I currently have. Spending $149 + Iphone + Ipad just to see "what's new" it's senseless...
The whole upgrade to Lion OS was $40... and these guys want $149? I am not a new customer!!! I am not buying the app from scratch!
The price I paid originally was premium + already, and this behavior from coradyne is an insult! As someone said it before: greedy and arrogant.
I will not buy this upgrade for that kind of money even if I have to get back to carry the paper logbook in my briefcase.
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Old 6th Jan 2012, 15:32   #49 (permalink)
 
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Have stopped recommending it to fellow pilots

i agree with the last post. the upgrade price is just pure greed. I don't mind paying a small amount for an upgrade, they claim this is a major change, it doesn't look major from the screenshots. This is just a ridiculous price for an upgrade. Why would anyone in there right mind want to pay £128 for an UPGRADE, For *@&k sake you greedy B*@sT£$. Get a grip Noah.!!
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Old 7th Jan 2012, 07:25   #50 (permalink)
 
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WAY too much for an upgrade...

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No way I am paying full price for an upgrade. Not even at 50% discount. I had paid for the full application once, and I am actually very happy with the features I currently have. Spending $149 + Iphone + Ipad just to see "what's new" it's senseless...
The whole upgrade to Lion OS was $40... and these guys want $149? I am not a new customer!!! I am not buying the app from scratch!
The price I paid originally was premium + already, and this behavior from coradyne is an insult! As someone said it before: greedy and arrogant.
I will not buy this upgrade for that kind of money even if I have to get back to carry the paper logbook in my briefcase.
Couldn't have said it better. I totally agree. So does every pilot I fly with. Upgrade costs must be nominal...or most people won't bother.

Guys in my company who have been considering buying LogTen Pro are now mostly saying to me that they will hold off buying until they can be more certain that ongoing costs won't continue to skyrocket.

I received a marketing survey from the company yesterday. I took the few minutes to complete it and express my displeasure with their upgrade gouge pricing. Here's hoping they see reason and don't kill this great product with a greedy grab for additional cash...

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Old 7th Jan 2012, 08:38   #51 (permalink)
 
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I am more than willing to pay a premium price for a premium product. But not every other year. Didn't buy the "upgrade" and don't plan to do it anytime soon. The previous version still runs fine and i don't see any reason to upgrade for a full price right now.
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Old 7th Jan 2012, 08:57   #52 (permalink)
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whatever price niche LTP wanna position themselves it's their decision, the sales numbers will either prove them wrong or right. However I expect them to be a little innovative next time and come out with a online solution like mycontrol or alike. Online is the future.
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Old 28th Jan 2012, 02:17   #53 (permalink)
 
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Updated Pricing...still too high

Here's the latest:

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So, what changes are we making?

You've told us what you think, and the majority is very clear! Here's what we're doing:
New Lower Price

We want every pilot to be able to take advantage of LogTen Pro, from students, to airplane owners, and from summer glider pilots to daily airline captains. Effective immediately, we've lowered the price of LogTen Pro across the board an average of 30%. Prices vary by region, but in US Dollars you can now get LogTen Pro for iPhone for only $29.99, iPad is $59.99, and for the Mac just $99.99.
Introducing LogTen Pro Universal

The overwhelming majority of pilots want to run LogTen Pro both on their iPhone AND their iPad. However, some people just need one or the other, what to do? We have been working around the clock and are just putting the finishing touches on a universal iOS app for LogTen Pro. We will still offer the individual iPhone and iPad versions for those of you who only want to run the app on one particular device, but now there will be a universal app so everyone who wants to run LogTen Pro on all their iOS devices can do it with a single purchase! Prices do vary from region to region (they're set by Apple) but in US Dollars LogTen Pro Universal will sell for just $79.99!
More LogTen Pro 6 upgrades

We want ALL our customers to be on the latest version! We will continue to offer our incredibly low half price upgrades (now just $14.99USD for iPhone, $29.99 for iPad and $49.99 for Mac during our upgrade days). In addition, we will offer upgrade opportunities each month for at least the next several months to ensure you all have a chance to upgrade when it's convenient for you.
I still believe $50 is WAY TOO MUCH for a minor program update for my MacBook. I won't be upgrading.

PG
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Old 24th Feb 2012, 01:10   #54 (permalink)
 
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Has anyone upgraded lately? How was the experience? Was it worth it? From what I could read in LTP's site, the upgrade to version 6 is not only expensive but quite troublesome. I currently run version 3.2. I don't think I will upgrade for the time being.
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Old 24th Feb 2012, 06:58   #55 (permalink)
 
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I had no problem upgrading to v6. However i think the obly additional feature (i noticed) was the duty time graphis, which are difficult to handle (no split-duty rules).

I think the pricing is okay, as it is an awesome product and with the universal app (iPad and iPhone) they made a step towards the rigt direction.
But in my opinion, the upgrade from v5 to v6 shouldn't have been so expensive.
On the other hand, it is not possible to do a payable upgrade with apple products yet. So it is difficult for them to find the right balance between cheap upgrades for existing customers and the right pricing for new obes.

Cheers Mac
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Old 26th Feb 2012, 15:20   #56 (permalink)
 
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Thanks for the info. The only reason to upgrade would be to be able to sync the data among the devices. Beyond that, as you point out, there's not much new.
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Old 30th Apr 2012, 03:26   #57 (permalink)


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The developers get too greedy and end up trying to milk the costumers. This is what makes people resort to piracy online.

I think I'm gonna go do a search on some torrents site... brb
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 00:34   #58 (permalink)
 
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Can you sync an iPhone and iPad without a Mac?

Hi all,

I have both versions (6.0.8) on iPad and on iPhone but I cannot sync the two. I do not own a Mac and I am wondering whether you actually need one to sync?

Thanks.
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 18:23   #59 (permalink)
 
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Sync

Synching is -between- iOS devices and the Mac Application, so yes, you need a Mac in order to sync.
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Old 30th Jul 2012, 21:41   #60 (permalink)
 
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My iPad and iPhone synch together without recourse to a Mac.
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