Touch and goes during solo flight (student pilot in USA)
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They also used to quickly teach people to swim by chucking them in deep water and only pulling them out if they ended up on the bottom!
But the point I am really making is that a student can train on a much more complex aircraft than we may think.
Less power doesn't mean better safety.Infact less power means a greater chance of a stall / spin through high drag low power.
A good instructor can teach on a complex from the word go.
It doesn't have to be a low powered fixed gear fixed prop aircraft.
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But the point I am really making is that a student can train on a much more complex aircraft than we may think.
Less power doesn't mean better safety.Infact less power means a greater chance of a stall / spin through high drag low power.
A good instructor can teach on a complex from the word go.
It doesn't have to be a low powered fixed gear fixed prop aircraft.
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Infact less power means a greater chance of a stall / spin through high drag low power. A good instructor can teach on a complex from the word go.
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Remind us, do you have an instructor rating?
I'm an instructor, and I agree with his comments. Is that close enough?
It is possible to know something about aviation without being an instructor.
The difference between the instructor and the non-instructor is that the instructor can lend his signature to incorrect information. Instructing isn't about other-worldly pilot skills, and it isn't about having an unusual compendium of knowledge. It's about being able to present material, recognize common student errors (and correct them), and to explain in a way that's understood.
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Remind us, do you have an instructor rating?
The only instruction I have done is the training for the issue of an SIC on an FAA reg Citation. This was using my ATP!
A 30000 hr ATP may not have an instructor rating does this mean he doesnt have the experience to offer an opinion over an instructor?
What does an instructor need to be classified as an instructor? Somewhere around 200 hrs total time on fixed gear single props? WOW i am impressed.
I have thousands of hours on numerous multi engine pistons in hard IFR all over Europe in every weather imaginable plus have flown for numerous owner/operators as a Captain on private Jets and still do! plus have jet ferry work to the far East South Africa, America, Europe as Captain.
So your probably right I cannot hold a candle up against the 200 hr instructor?
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Having recently got my license in a shortish time my solo is still fairly fresh in my mind. I did a single circuit and full stop as is the norm here downunder, i was taught T&G's and go'rounds before solo (although due to my late arriving class1 medical my solo was a little 'overcooked').
What they DID NOT teach me enough of was abandoning a takeoff which was far more frightening than i realised having had to do one for real.
I agree with Pace you should teach the student EVERYTHING they may face when doing a circuit including abandoning and rejoining the ciruit and abandoning take offs.
Of course i should have abadoned the circuit and rejoined.
I found my Instructors were excellent and did show me some excellent 'real life' flying tips rather than teaching me 'how to drive' and I really enjoyed mastering the more funky things like wing drop stalls and unsual atttudes. Depending on which instructer i flew with determined how 'unusual' the attitude was.
We also have a new part to the sylabus which is terrain awareness this was excellent. Being able to pick a tight valley and figuring out whether you can execute a 180 safely. Kills alot of people in NZ and is a valuable addition to the training, lot of fun too!
What they DID NOT teach me enough of was abandoning a takeoff which was far more frightening than i realised having had to do one for real.
I agree with Pace you should teach the student EVERYTHING they may face when doing a circuit including abandoning and rejoining the ciruit and abandoning take offs.
Of course i should have abadoned the circuit and rejoined.
I found my Instructors were excellent and did show me some excellent 'real life' flying tips rather than teaching me 'how to drive' and I really enjoyed mastering the more funky things like wing drop stalls and unsual atttudes. Depending on which instructer i flew with determined how 'unusual' the attitude was.
We also have a new part to the sylabus which is terrain awareness this was excellent. Being able to pick a tight valley and figuring out whether you can execute a 180 safely. Kills alot of people in NZ and is a valuable addition to the training, lot of fun too!
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My instructor says its cause he believes its in the regulations. Also, he doesn't want his students doing it anyway cause it gives them extra time and everything.
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Student Pilot Touch and Goes
I am a Student Pilot with about 7 hours Solo. (60 hours total) I asked my "NEW" intructor for a endorsement to go to a nearby class D airport to do touch and goes. I have 225 landings with over half touch and goes at this airport. I have practiced them Solo at "my" class D airport were the flight school is...at least I did before this instructor came here after getting fired from my first school.
He told me "A student Pilot cannot do touch and goes with out a instructor"
My last instructor did not have a problem with it (at least at flight school airport- he has left for Commercial job). I find his response hard to believe. I left my first flight school becuase of this instructor. (He "soaked" me $$ on instruction and was not focused on my training) I know he needs the $$$ and I believe that is the reason behind his response.
Can I get a HONEST answer to the point?? Is it "legal" if student is "qualified" as I believe I am? Is there a requirment that an Instructor has to be with student? Thanks!
From FAA Website:
After I’ve soloed, can I fly cross-country alone?
Not right away. Your instructor must review your pre-flight planning and preparation for solo cross-country flight and determine that the flight can be made safely under known circumstances and conditions. The instructor must also endorse your logbook before cross- country flight stating you are considered competent to make the flight. An instructor may authorize repeated solo flights over a given route.
He told me "A student Pilot cannot do touch and goes with out a instructor"
My last instructor did not have a problem with it (at least at flight school airport- he has left for Commercial job). I find his response hard to believe. I left my first flight school becuase of this instructor. (He "soaked" me $$ on instruction and was not focused on my training) I know he needs the $$$ and I believe that is the reason behind his response.
Can I get a HONEST answer to the point?? Is it "legal" if student is "qualified" as I believe I am? Is there a requirment that an Instructor has to be with student? Thanks!
From FAA Website:
After I’ve soloed, can I fly cross-country alone?
Not right away. Your instructor must review your pre-flight planning and preparation for solo cross-country flight and determine that the flight can be made safely under known circumstances and conditions. The instructor must also endorse your logbook before cross- country flight stating you are considered competent to make the flight. An instructor may authorize repeated solo flights over a given route.
