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Old 14th Sep 2017, 11:45
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C152 crash at YPJT

https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/light-plane-crash-lands-at-jandakot-air-strip-ng-b88599941z

Anyone got any details? One of Air Australia's aircraft down, looks like a nose wheel collapse on 24L at Jandakot today.
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Originally Posted by EI-RJK
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/light-plane-crash-lands-at-jandakot-air-strip-ng-b88599941z

Anyone got any details? One of Air Australia's aircraft down, looks like a nose wheel collapse on 24L at Jandakot today.
Looks like the nose gear didn't lower. Did the pilot get a gear unsafe warning light?
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looks like a nose wheel collapse
Answered your own question I'd say
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Does he get signed off for Short Field Technique?
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No. Proper technique here.

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C152 Gear Light?

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Looks like the nose gear didn't lower. Did the pilot get a gear unsafe warning light?
I trust you were jesting about the gear not lowering and gear light SM, at least I hope so if you really do hold an ATPL.
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I trust you were jesting about the gear not lowering and gear light SM, at least I hope so if you really do hold an ATPL.
Whenever I lined up for short finals in a C150/2, a long while back, I always called: Pitch-Full fine, Undercarriage-Down and locked, Wing flaps-Set, Cowl flaps-Open...
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gerry111, I usually call for "Down and Welded", it seems more accurate!
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I usually call for "Down and Welded", it seems more accurate
Then again if you are lazy when challenged "Check Wheels" you respond with "Beep"

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Then again if you are lazy when challenged "Check Wheels" you respond with "Beep"
Worked well on the GCA at 350KIAS!
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Lucky they just missed the school and the hospital. The airport should be closed!
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Bloggs,

As several of my students well remember!!

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There was a training Chieftain doing a glide approach last week at Archerfield.
First time I've seen that.
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Originally Posted by holdingagain
There was a training Chieftain doing a glide approach........
The Barwon Heads approach!
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Originally Posted by gerry111
Whenever I lined up for short finals in a C150/2, a long while back, I always called: Pitch-Full fine, Undercarriage-Down and locked, Wing flaps-Set, Cowl flaps-Open...
Gerry. C150-152 !!! You wasted a lot of breath there mate. Pitch? Fixed, Undercarriage? Fixed, Flaps, agree with that, Cowl Flaps? Not on any C150-152 I've flown. For me in either C150/152 it was: Rwy Clear, Carby Heat Cold & Flaps set. Grounded now so I don't get to fly the aircraft.
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OF: The way it was explained to me was that it is sensible to have a 'standard' checklist so that it works whether you're flying a fixed gear aircraft or a retractable gear aircraft. If your checklist includes a 'gear' item and you happen to be flying a fixed gear aircraft, there's no downside and all upside in confirming "fixed and welded". You might be flying a retractable the next day...
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I'm with Lead Balloon, I have this situation regularly at work, can fly a fixed gear for a week or two then swap out to a retract for the next week or two, some are carby some aren't as well believe it or not! So I find it works for me.
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Gerry stated late finals. Presumably he would have conducted his pre-landing checks downwind. My comments were simply referring to C150-C152 I had flown. Besides, I know Gerry and I was being "tongue-in-cheek" as the aircraft mentioned does not have a constant speed prop or cowl flaps and has fixed undercarriage. Runway clear - Carby Heat Off and correct flap Set are all meaningful checks I think.
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Originally Posted by Old Fella
I trust you were jesting about the gear not lowering and gear light SM, at least I hope so if you really do hold an ATPL.
I guess this is what you call a 'jesting' emoticon -->
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Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs
Worked well on the GCA at 350KIAS!
Bloggs, I remember doing 'Ground Controlled Approaches', as a passenger in the back seat of a RAAF Macchi during 1978 at ESL. Far below Mirage speeds there! (Fortunately, the QFI took me for serious aerobatics at the half time break..)
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