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EI-RJK 14th Sep 2017 11:45

C152 crash at YPJT
 
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/light-plane-crash-lands-at-jandakot-air-strip-ng-b88599941z

Anyone got any details? One of Air Australia's aircraft down, looks like a nose wheel collapse on 24L at Jandakot today.

smiling monkey 14th Sep 2017 17:52


Originally Posted by EI-RJK (Post 9891499)
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/light-plane-crash-lands-at-jandakot-air-strip-ng-b88599941z

Anyone got any details? One of Air Australia's aircraft down, looks like a nose wheel collapse on 24L at Jandakot today.

Looks like the nose gear didn't lower. Did the pilot get a gear unsafe warning light? :)

YPJT 14th Sep 2017 21:50


looks like a nose wheel collapse
Answered your own question I'd say

Ixixly 15th Sep 2017 00:16

Does he get signed off for Short Field Technique?

megan 15th Sep 2017 05:59

No. Proper technique here.


Old Fella 15th Sep 2017 06:52

C152 Gear Light?
 

Originally Posted by smiling monkey (Post 9891820)
Looks like the nose gear didn't lower. Did the pilot get a gear unsafe warning light? :)

I trust you were jesting about the gear not lowering and gear light SM, at least I hope so if you really do hold an ATPL.

gerry111 15th Sep 2017 12:46


Originally Posted by Old Fella (Post 9892265)
I trust you were jesting about the gear not lowering and gear light SM, at least I hope so if you really do hold an ATPL.

Whenever I lined up for short finals in a C150/2, a long while back, I always called: Pitch-Full fine, Undercarriage-Down and locked, Wing flaps-Set, Cowl flaps-Open... ;)

Ixixly 15th Sep 2017 13:09

gerry111, I usually call for "Down and Welded", it seems more accurate!

Checklist Charlie 16th Sep 2017 01:02


I usually call for "Down and Welded", it seems more accurate
Then again if you are lazy when challenged "Check Wheels" you respond with "Beep"

CC

Capn Bloggs 16th Sep 2017 01:27


Then again if you are lazy when challenged "Check Wheels" you respond with "Beep"
Worked well on the GCA at 350KIAS! :ok:

Clare Prop 16th Sep 2017 01:54

Lucky they just missed the school and the hospital. The airport should be closed!

mgahan 16th Sep 2017 05:15

Bloggs,

As several of my students well remember!!

MJG

holdingagain 16th Sep 2017 22:12

There was a training Chieftain doing a glide approach last week at Archerfield.
First time I've seen that.

DeRated 16th Sep 2017 23:56


Originally Posted by holdingagain (Post 9894014)
There was a training Chieftain doing a glide approach........

The Barwon Heads approach!

Old Fella 17th Sep 2017 09:51


Originally Posted by gerry111 (Post 9892624)
Whenever I lined up for short finals in a C150/2, a long while back, I always called: Pitch-Full fine, Undercarriage-Down and locked, Wing flaps-Set, Cowl flaps-Open... ;)

Gerry. C150-152 !!! You wasted a lot of breath there mate. Pitch? Fixed, Undercarriage? Fixed, Flaps, agree with that, Cowl Flaps? Not on any C150-152 I've flown. For me in either C150/152 it was: Rwy Clear, Carby Heat Cold & Flaps set. Grounded now so I don't get to fly the aircraft.

Lead Balloon 17th Sep 2017 10:39

OF: The way it was explained to me was that it is sensible to have a 'standard' checklist so that it works whether you're flying a fixed gear aircraft or a retractable gear aircraft. If your checklist includes a 'gear' item and you happen to be flying a fixed gear aircraft, there's no downside and all upside in confirming "fixed and welded". You might be flying a retractable the next day...

Ixixly 17th Sep 2017 10:51

I'm with Lead Balloon, I have this situation regularly at work, can fly a fixed gear for a week or two then swap out to a retract for the next week or two, some are carby some aren't as well believe it or not! So I find it works for me.

Old Fella 17th Sep 2017 13:16

Gerry stated late finals. Presumably he would have conducted his pre-landing checks downwind. My comments were simply referring to C150-C152 I had flown. Besides, I know Gerry and I was being "tongue-in-cheek" as the aircraft mentioned does not have a constant speed prop or cowl flaps and has fixed undercarriage. Runway clear - Carby Heat Off and correct flap Set are all meaningful checks I think.

smiling monkey 18th Sep 2017 05:50


Originally Posted by Old Fella (Post 9892265)
I trust you were jesting about the gear not lowering and gear light SM, at least I hope so if you really do hold an ATPL.

I guess this is what you call a 'jesting' emoticon --> :)

gerry111 18th Sep 2017 13:22


Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs (Post 9893221)
Worked well on the GCA at 350KIAS! :ok:

Bloggs, I remember doing 'Ground Controlled Approaches', as a passenger in the back seat of a RAAF Macchi during 1978 at ESL. Far below Mirage speeds there! (Fortunately, the QFI took me for serious aerobatics at the half time break..) :D:D:D


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