EK Pay Review
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AAR still believes all pilots in the world want to work here. That's why there have been no significant improvements over the past half decade. He is still in place and nothing has changed. Don't expect something big to come out of this announcement, if anything at all.
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Agreed, Mos
Historically when they do give, they give with the one hand and take with the other...cost neutral, or so it seems.
Expect a small increase, dressed up as a big one, and a corresponding change to bidding/FTL's to offset the cost.
Historically when they do give, they give with the one hand and take with the other...cost neutral, or so it seems.
Expect a small increase, dressed up as a big one, and a corresponding change to bidding/FTL's to offset the cost.
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Any guesses on the announcement date? Historically is was shortly after the Profit Share announcement. Last year we were delayed a month (for no apparent reason).
Any guesses for this year? I'm thinking another month delay (even though they've had 12 months to think it through) to which we'll get our usual step. Kinda like they did to us last year.
Same old $hit....
Any guesses for this year? I'm thinking another month delay (even though they've had 12 months to think it through) to which we'll get our usual step. Kinda like they did to us last year.
Same old $hit....
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The only reason they delayed it last year was the runway problem. Why would anyone tell their employees they would be getting 
again during a critical time when they needed everyone on-side with the operation. Frankly it was a wonderful idea to delay the announcement until the problem was almost resolved! 
Is this the last Thursday before the payroll cutoff for this month?
I think they will announce it quietly in an email this afternoon that we will get a 4% increase in pay including a step. I believe it is a requirement to make it vague enough that we think we will get more.
again during a critical time when they needed everyone on-side with the operation. Frankly it was a wonderful idea to delay the announcement until the problem was almost resolved! Is this the last Thursday before the payroll cutoff for this month?
I think they will announce it quietly in an email this afternoon that we will get a 4% increase in pay including a step. I believe it is a requirement to make it vague enough that we think we will get more.
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Well, it has not been quiet. An article was tactically placed in the Gulf News Business part three days ago: It said that the companies in the UAE seemed to be "reluctant" to give their employees a raise although it would be deserved. Apparently they don't want a racing spiral to erode their ever mounting profits.
Now we know that when it goes for a race to the bottom for UAE workers, EK employees are set equal to all other UAE employees and certainly not part of the pampered and teflon coated government employees.
But when it goes for a race to the top for UAE workforce, EK employees then are suddenly semi-government workers and not to participate in this hike and, mind you, not subject to UAE labor law!!
Huge increases for government employees however then push us down to normal UAE workers again, and so on and so forth .....
The article seemed to me to prepare us that there will be no increase. They will up the package for newbees, but not for us.
Now we know that when it goes for a race to the bottom for UAE workers, EK employees are set equal to all other UAE employees and certainly not part of the pampered and teflon coated government employees.
But when it goes for a race to the top for UAE workforce, EK employees then are suddenly semi-government workers and not to participate in this hike and, mind you, not subject to UAE labor law!!
Huge increases for government employees however then push us down to normal UAE workers again, and so on and so forth .....
The article seemed to me to prepare us that there will be no increase. They will up the package for newbees, but not for us.
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Ladies and Gentlemen this is your captain, my name is ......
Firstly let me welcome you to our flight today. I am sorry if any of you are upset by the sight of the crew all holding mugs of Costa coffee, sadly it is needed for us to get through the day.
Please show a little consideration if you happen to come across a sleeping member of the crew during our flight today, they were probably working on the other side of the clock to what they were doing yesterday, but you will be glad to know that it's all legal and approved by our senior managers.
If you hear or feel a vibration during the flight, do not be concerned, it is probably someone taking some controlled rest and snoring. Though please to highlight this in your comments online as we will get said crew member into our sleep lab to provide data for our endurance program.
With that I would like to wish you a relaxing flight.
Keep recovering all.
Firstly let me welcome you to our flight today. I am sorry if any of you are upset by the sight of the crew all holding mugs of Costa coffee, sadly it is needed for us to get through the day.
Please show a little consideration if you happen to come across a sleeping member of the crew during our flight today, they were probably working on the other side of the clock to what they were doing yesterday, but you will be glad to know that it's all legal and approved by our senior managers.
If you hear or feel a vibration during the flight, do not be concerned, it is probably someone taking some controlled rest and snoring. Though please to highlight this in your comments online as we will get said crew member into our sleep lab to provide data for our endurance program.
With that I would like to wish you a relaxing flight.
Keep recovering all.
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Step only and over time back to 78, that way it seems like a raise but really just gets us back on track from 2009 but still way behind on inflation. Won't keep anyone from leaving who was planning to and won't entice anyone who wasn't already looking. No improvement in QOL, we will still work to 90+ with min days off. 330/340 guys will not benefit at all. The beginning of the end.
I am pretty sure that a few of the grown ups don't just get together at Costa on thurs arvo to work out our pay review. The 1st May effective date is probably also known, as it has been that way for the past 17 yrs at least. So it would seem our pay review has gone the way of our rosters and leave. Held back as long as possible to ensure the power of the muppet tower is fully understood.
I wonder if an auto sent warning letter is sent to those concerned from the chief pilots office as happens if you are late with your pre PPC study?
No matter what the review says, be it good or bad, the timing of its release speaks volumes for the way of the future.
I really don't think they can help themselves. They have no freaking idea.
I wonder if an auto sent warning letter is sent to those concerned from the chief pilots office as happens if you are late with your pre PPC study?
No matter what the review says, be it good or bad, the timing of its release speaks volumes for the way of the future.
I really don't think they can help themselves. They have no freaking idea.
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What are you all complaining about? You are lucky to have this job, there are plenty who can replace you, you already steal days off from the company, if you don't like it leave.
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Yeh...bloody lazy pilots!
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Sorry TOGA, I meant it as support, not as an insult. Remember, i ave been there and done that as well. No offence was meant.
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TOGA, fair enough, my post was not meant in any way to be a slight on our colleagues or your good-self.
Sadly, the ship to redemption here has already sailed, the cultural cancer (downward spiral) towards this place becoming GFA 2 is well advanced, the policies to put certain passport holders in positions to make decisions far beyond their cultural, intellectual and competency skill set will continue this process apace.
Yet again we see that living in the corporate and cultural bubble of zero accountability merely reinforces the dogma that we all see and deal with on a daily basis, to live in hope for positive change is an exercise in futility and foolishness.
The continued policy of contempt and punitive undertones is deliberate and calculated, it is a corporate employment management strategy that gives rise to all the disengagement and resentment that continues to fester unabated.
Goodluck, I only have a few weeks left in this phase of my life, and I will refrain from posting anything other than the occasional cheeky comment on here from that time.
Sadly, the ship to redemption here has already sailed, the cultural cancer (downward spiral) towards this place becoming GFA 2 is well advanced, the policies to put certain passport holders in positions to make decisions far beyond their cultural, intellectual and competency skill set will continue this process apace.
Yet again we see that living in the corporate and cultural bubble of zero accountability merely reinforces the dogma that we all see and deal with on a daily basis, to live in hope for positive change is an exercise in futility and foolishness.
The continued policy of contempt and punitive undertones is deliberate and calculated, it is a corporate employment management strategy that gives rise to all the disengagement and resentment that continues to fester unabated.
Goodluck, I only have a few weeks left in this phase of my life, and I will refrain from posting anything other than the occasional cheeky comment on here from that time.
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At the risk of getting a mailbox full of "stop posting" messages, can I assure you quality of life increases by about 100000% when you leave.