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Old 8th Sep 2011, 17:10   #101 (permalink)
 
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Back to Business

Okay...back to Business, Tomorrow (Friday) & Friday the Next for those guys who still didn't arrive from vacation, Alpha's MPL's First Batch will have the practical SEP...i.e. jumping from a fuselage shaped structure to a swimming pool & learn how to survive...etc.

More to come next week...

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Old 10th Sep 2011, 23:38   #102 (permalink)
 
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Back from an interesting day at Emirates Crew Training College, with a lots of confidence about how to handle Evacs & Safety Equipment...etc.

As for the Base Training & Line Training, most probably we will hear from GCAA soon about certifying doing the 12 TAGs in non Air Arabia A320s (I know it is a little late for that), which is going to be done in Amman ...most probably certification will be next week & Base training next week too. As for the line training, we can't start it until we get the licenses, so, Observation flights are expected to start & keep on running until the Licenses are issued, probably some PAs & RTs can be trained (en-route Orientation or something like that)

That is the latest, I guess next week will be interesting
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Old 11th Sep 2011, 04:32   #103 (permalink)
 
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@Marlim

This surely sounds intresting...

I can't even comprehend your feelings right now; knowing you are so close to turning your dream into a reality

HOPE TO SEE YOU IN JANUARY... RISK contemplating risking it all...

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Old 11th Sep 2011, 23:15   #104 (permalink)
 
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@ Risk

LOL, Will see you hopefully on Jan...
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Old 15th Sep 2011, 04:53   #105 (permalink)
 
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@Marlim

Today is the 15th.... any news?
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Old 15th Sep 2011, 06:18   #106 (permalink)
 
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@ Risk

Will be Signing the Contract with Air Arabia soon...

Base Training is next week, mean while we were having Lots of Obs Flights all around Air Arabia Routes...GREAT CREW, very helpful & so full of joy, its a nice Family ... So we are kept busy like that...Guys (who are close to me here), please PM me if you have more questions about anyhing...I can't just post everything here

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Old 16th Sep 2011, 12:49   #107 (permalink)
 
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@Khayat

Ture, it is a gamble & a hustle... but as with all aspiring pilots, we tend to ignore everything & risk it all...

Marlim has been positive about it even after quite a hecic & long time spent there... since you are a relatively newer batch & quite frustrated, do you feel that Air Arabia might not take you guys?

My question arises from the fact that AAA has about 80 students with them now. Anyone joining now will have 80 people before them in the queue, so I want to know if it is indeed a bad decision to join now.

I dont want to pay 600,000 Dirhams & end up with nothing...
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Old 17th Sep 2011, 11:13   #108 (permalink)
 
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@ Khayat

First of all, Khayat is a good friend of mine, I was in contact with him yesterday & amazingly...he doesn't know PPRuNe! he was shocked by the fact that there is somebody using his name, please who ever you are, don't use anybody's name...I will check with Alpha if there is another Khayat in the Academy which is 0.01% chance, If I were you, I would use another nickname.

About the Contract/Risks...etc. I was shocked to know that we will have to pay such an amount to Air Arabia after spending 440K in Alpha...well, I have compared it to other CPL/IR + TR + Line training options from Eagle Jet, it lies somewhere around 120K, then Obviously if you join an Airline, they are going to pay you less for sometime under a Temporary Contract...etc. while at the end of my MPL (Away from the Training techniques/equipment compared to CPL), I got a contract without me hustling here & there...to be honest, going the CPL/IR way to me was like a disaster looking at the chances I have, specially looking at my friends & instructors who were waiting for that shot that I already HAVE.

At the end of the day, You can spend 600K for getting into a Job or upto 600k for a CPL/IR + TR...I took the first option, here I am, I have been Lied to/Delayed/Sent away from home to get my training done/was not sure of my future...etc. I say again here I am, I got a JOB & well respected amongst my CPL/IR & ATPL holder friends...good luck with choosing
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 05:27   #109 (permalink)
 
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Thanks Marlim for clarifying that...
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Old 18th Sep 2011, 16:19   #110 (permalink)
 
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malirm is in the first batch, but unfortunately khayat is right and do not forget something: all the ordered planes will not be added to the current fleet, but 1/2 will replace actual leased planes, so no job creation for half of the order. The situation will be ok for the first batches, but as air arabia do not have enough TRE/TRI captains, and they will struggle to get in these profiles, the next batches will be queueing for a while after the training completion.
Air arabia is trying to promote current FOs to capt position but they are not able to be TRE/TRIs..... So the situation is risky for the last batches, lets say from batch 5 or 6 ongoing....
Once your inside, you're like an hostage, they can do anything they want, lie, rise the price, add fees on top of the ones you knew before, you will have no choice and they know that.... Nice business to play with people dreams, make a lot of money of it

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Old 18th Sep 2011, 17:28   #111 (permalink)
 
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@ All

Woooow, I guess that everybody wants to play it the PPRuNe way, Thanks Yannisfr

FAKE Khayat, I am here since 2008, it is a loosing battle, try another one, Alpha is a money making Business...Sure, Air Arabia is a money making low cost carrier...sure, are we victims, in a way YES, but in another way, I have secured a career in a Country that this kinds of careers go for highly experienced Pros, looking at myself 10 years from now...would I regret it lets see...

The School of mind starts again, you can take my words, FAKE Khayat's words or Yannisfr's (Yannos) or anybody else's, people ask me for updates, I post them, whether good or bad, would I say Alpha is bad...would I say Air Arabia is bad...well, I guess it is all about MPL, as I always said..WAIT & SEE...

Best of luck in choosing, from now on, I will be posting updates about my status & how my MPL training progresses, nobody asks me about recommending anything as I will let FAKE Khayat take over providing you all about alpha updates whoever you are, I wonder how would you deal with any delays/miss understandings later on in the few coming Months/YEARS of your training wish you the best my Aviation Mate !

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Old 18th Sep 2011, 17:59   #112 (permalink)
 
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Interestingly, all posts by Khayat (or whoever they are) seem to have disappeared from this thread... Hmm...

Malirm, I would like to echo some of the previous comments in this thread that your posts have been the most helpful. Please keep sharing, as I am sure quite a few aspirants like me are looking out incessantly for updates in the hope that this would continue to bolster our confidence in AAA and the MPL.

Thanks and good luck.
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Old 19th Sep 2011, 03:47   #113 (permalink)
 
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To all

I don't know YOU! Yes, YOU, the reader, the poster & the observer...

BUT I know something... which is that I come here for hope, help & hints.... yes subconsciously I do also come here for negative thoughts because we are all adults & need to decide for ourselves & that won’t happen till we know both sides however bolstered they are.

So my ADVISE to all is that you can post whatever you want & read whatever you want, the question boils down to a these simple facts:

POSTER: Do you want to tell the truth, your feelings & the actual facts, or do you want to dramatize it? This can end up in other people getting hurt. If you post extremely positive when it is not the case, someone will end up investing their life in this & end up with nothing, or the opposite wherein you post something negative when it really is not (it might just be a bump) & someone might not do what they always wanted to do & still end up losing a dream. Which by the way is equal to losing hope & that is equal to losing your life….

READER: Read, just read & evaluate everything, then PLEASE GET OFF YOUR LAZY backsides & go do some research on your own, make your OWN conclusions & filter out the unwanted… ask an expert.. Don’t just believe everything online… that goes true for EVERY website on the internet…

To conclude, lets not argue, let everyone post what they want & it is our responsibility to correct any incorrect information & if there still is something that we can’t do, then it is up to the individual reader to decide whether what they are reading is right or not. I mean at the end of the day the readers of this thread are aspiring/potential pilots, so then they should have the judgemental capabilities to differentiate between right & wrong.

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Old 19th Sep 2011, 10:03   #114 (permalink)
 
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@ DRC, thanks mate, I hope I can help without forming a propaganda against or for the advantage of Alpha or Air Arabia, its up to the READER to decide.

@ Risk...I agree

As for the base training, Alpha & Air Arabia are sorting it out with GCAA (obviously) + other Country's CAA, as the deal was to make the 12 TOs & Landings in Air Arabia A320s (as known), but, Air Arabia & hence Alpha decided to do it with another airline in an Arab Country for the sake of Saving Air Arabia's A320s from a total of 108 Touch & Gos (Wear & Tear + Costs + Availability of Aircrafts) ...thus GCAA has decided to make an Audit of that Arab Airline & the status of its A320, & Training Captains...etc.

Everything is under process currently, I guess the deal will be, That Arab Airline Captain will be setting to the Left seat, while An A320 TRE from Air Arabia is Observing us (sitting on the Jump Seat) as nobody would let other pilots to fly their airplanes...still, we might hear from them anytime sooner or Later, it also depends on the availability of that Arab Airline A320...

This is what being Batch one feels/is like, you just wait for deals & legal stuff to happen & hope for the best

You (The READER) judge it...good news or bad news...to me, I'm used to the delays This doesn't mean Alpha/Air Arabia/GCAA are bad OR Great...I am updating you (Reader) & you decide for yourself the best option !
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Old 26th Sep 2011, 14:31   #115 (permalink)
 
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Ye who hath held thine silence, do cometh from yonder & quoth unto us all but a few words of hope!
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Old 1st Nov 2011, 13:07   #116 (permalink)
 
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Any updates? Anyone?? Hope this meagre post would lead into breaking the silence and remind active posters that there are people like myself who are still tracking this thread in the hope to hear some news...

Thanks.
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Old 5th Nov 2011, 23:49   #117 (permalink)
 
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To All

First of all, I wish you a Happy Eid...

I will be updating you sometime by Mid/End Nov. 2011

There is some good news...nothing bad for now except for the waiting a good break to study & enjoy...
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Old 9th Nov 2011, 06:58   #118 (permalink)
 
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I thought that you're gone and let my dream ceased
Hohoo .. so Glad to hear from malirm
I am still on my original mission "collecting the bucks"

HapPy Eid too, trust you've had a bless one !!!
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 15:24   #119 (permalink)
 
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Marlim, since I am considering joining the aviation industry, I would like to know, from you, how many students from batch 1 have been able to graduate to the line training stage?

What happens to those that gradate but are not able to to secure a job with Air Arabia. What value does the MPL have? There will be no takers for cadets with only 70 hours of flying and a few hours of IR rating.

Should then going for the CPL route not be a better option than MPL?
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 17:24   #120 (permalink)
 
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HI I am 30 year old from India ,I am deciding to join alpha for MPL .. could some one help me with information what will be the future of students joining next year will air Arabia take us into the airline as SO or we just have to settle with only a MPL
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