Pay raise is on the portal now
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6% still won't cover inflation in this place. Whilst it's great to get our incremental steps back in order, it definitely is not a payrise!
Let's see how much we get in return for our hard work last financial year!
Let's see how much we get in return for our hard work last financial year!
6%....?!
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Yes, 6% with a small increase in productivity (ha!) and call out pay. Nothing on flight pay.
I suppose it gives us back our 3% from last year, and 3% for this year but that means no payrise as such for 3 years!
The profit share had better be spectacular.
I suppose it gives us back our 3% from last year, and 3% for this year but that means no payrise as such for 3 years!
The profit share had better be spectacular.
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Cannot believe it !!
No increase ! 6% what a slap in our faces !
Thats just our increments which was forgotten last year , 3 now and 3 from last year!!!
They must be joking right?
Thats just our increments which was forgotten last year , 3 now and 3 from last year!!!
They must be joking right?
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Thats just our increments which was forgotten last year , 3 now and 3 from last year!!!
So it's less than normal increments.
I should have bet some money on the opening sentence of the letter though!
Welcome to the real world , the whole company has been on performance related pay , i.e no increments as per contract since 1995 ish . Dont see why pilots were made a special case.
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As somebody else has pointed out to me, the lack of a step means that an F/O who has been here for 2 years is now on exactly the same salary as somebody who joins today.
I suppose that is one way to "share the pain" but it isn't much of a reward for 2 years of erroded conditions and hard work.
I suspect this is designed to look good during recruitment interviews where they can point to the "huge" 6% payrise awarded this year while glossing over some of the background.
I suppose that is one way to "share the pain" but it isn't much of a reward for 2 years of erroded conditions and hard work.
I suspect this is designed to look good during recruitment interviews where they can point to the "huge" 6% payrise awarded this year while glossing over some of the background.
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As someone who considers himself balanced - this is a severe disappointment.
Working 20% extra, sacrificing valuable family time, losing the annual leave destination by having to use an EK destination in the US, getting billed for DEWA charges, losing the 3% increment, flying under the loosest FTL's in the industry, operating under a punitive flt ops mgt psyche...all to be told that in effect you are taking a cut (3% last yr and this year is equal to 6.1%)...in the face of what will be robust profits.
I have held my breath with my colleagues when it came to criticising the co. as I believed the opportunity to atone would present itself in the form of fair pay at the annual review.
They were right and I was wrong.
A sad day indeed for the pilot group that carried this airline through the storm.
Pity,
f.
Working 20% extra, sacrificing valuable family time, losing the annual leave destination by having to use an EK destination in the US, getting billed for DEWA charges, losing the 3% increment, flying under the loosest FTL's in the industry, operating under a punitive flt ops mgt psyche...all to be told that in effect you are taking a cut (3% last yr and this year is equal to 6.1%)...in the face of what will be robust profits.
I have held my breath with my colleagues when it came to criticising the co. as I believed the opportunity to atone would present itself in the form of fair pay at the annual review.
They were right and I was wrong.
A sad day indeed for the pilot group that carried this airline through the storm.
Pity,
f.
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fliion,
If it is any consolation, Delta will start hiring back in the States in the fall and both JetBlue and AirTran are currently hiring. I suspect many American drivers will be reviewing their options...
If it is any consolation, Delta will start hiring back in the States in the fall and both JetBlue and AirTran are currently hiring. I suspect many American drivers will be reviewing their options...
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I have held my comments until now. I agree. What a slap in the face! Raising the productivity pay is even a bigger joke when the hours to obtain the pay is set out of reach!
Feeling "gutted"
XBS
Feeling "gutted"
XBS
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We can complain as long as we want but at the end the sad thing is that still many pilots are applying and many are joining........
An average of 20 per month are joining.......
The only way we can change the situation is changing job......
Flare
An average of 20 per month are joining.......
The only way we can change the situation is changing job......
Flare
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6% A kick in pants.
I too have held by mouth untill now, but the letter from TCAS just "Gutted" me clean thru! 6%, what a slap in the face to the hard working pilots of EK. The cherry on top was the raising of the "Productivity Pay" to 600 aed????!!!! Where the bar is so high that is almost impossible to reach. The Callout pay to 1200 aed is another joke, which will never be used!!! And if used the crew sched officer will be sacked immediately!!!
The message is clear Gentlemen..........We are NOT appreciated!
They think that the pilot shortage will go away and people are really dying to come live in DXB, but the horse has already bolted, (No Pun intended...ha ha) never to return
. The truth is out about Emirates and living in Dubai and no amount of pretending or head in the sand will change the facts.......... Uncaring managment and a VERY Expensive place to live.
Keep recovering.........
The message is clear Gentlemen..........We are NOT appreciated!
They think that the pilot shortage will go away and people are really dying to come live in DXB, but the horse has already bolted, (No Pun intended...ha ha) never to return
. The truth is out about Emirates and living in Dubai and no amount of pretending or head in the sand will change the facts.......... Uncaring managment and a VERY Expensive place to live.Keep recovering.........
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Wow Sandbitc*!
Way to go way off topic with that one. Keep up the faith with us US boys.
I bet you're a hoot to share the cockpit with too.
You might not miss me when I'm gone... but your wife and 18 year old daughter will.
Now enough mud slingin' at each other. We should be throwing it at our employer.
-FP
Way to go way off topic with that one. Keep up the faith with us US boys.
I bet you're a hoot to share the cockpit with too.
You might not miss me when I'm gone... but your wife and 18 year old daughter will.
Now enough mud slingin' at each other. We should be throwing it at our employer.
-FP
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Well I for one will miss alot of our American brothers, alot of good blokes there. You are obviously not a team player sandhound, and I reckon it's miraculous that you got through the head checks!?!?!?!
bvcu, if you are not a pilot, then f@*k off!
bvcu, if you are not a pilot, then f@*k off!