High Energy

This place is unpredictable at times. Hiring has stopped yet I came across an add looking for DEC's yesterday. Go figure. My gutt feeling says they'll need people. Less people leaving but still slowly expanding. Rumor is the slow donw is due to lot's of aircraft getting scheduled maintenance during this seasons low time, hence also the offer for voluntary leave. Yet we have just announced 4 new destinations with the first already starting in 2 weeks. We'll see.

No 'new' news on aircraft retirements and MAX introduction plans.

tony the jesus

Hi,

I just completed my application for NTR DEC as the position became available again two days ago. Do you know how long it takes to get a feedback from Flydubai?

Thank you.

Luibar

I supose it could be anything from a couple of weeks to never...

madmaxfr

Hi,

I have had a positive answer the day after.

tony the jesus

Hi madmaxfr,

Are you type rated on the 737? Which position did you apply?

Thank you.

dubaigong

tony the jésus,

If you want to come here to work for Flydubai , I suggest that you change your nickname to Mohammed the prophet

Luibar

@ tony the jesus,

Early this morning I heard at the crew room of a guy that applied as NTR FO. Apparently he got a reply from FZ 4 months later...

They must be quite busy or desorganized...

argentina21

That may not be necessary if he just changes it a little bit to include the name "Isa."

tony the jesus

dubaigong and argentina21, I will take that in consideration

Meanwhile, do you have a rough idea how long Flydubai take to give a feedback? I have an upcoming interview with Hong Kong Express but Flydubai would suit me better if I have a chance with them.

Thank you

Vortex Thing

FZ feedback timescales have not changed since Year 0. i.e it is when they can be bothered or someone notices that you have requested something.

It could be the same day 0 it could be 18 months. In days gone by there was a lady who was particularly inefficient in HR. She would basically decide on which emails to answer based on what nationality she thought the airline needed that week. It was only after I joined and saw this is action, 5 years ago I add, that I could see why it took soooo long for some things to happen.

She basically had emails for years that she simply had never acknowledged or even responded to as she did not like the look of the name!! The previous Recruitment Manager JM who went to Amazon 2-3 years ago eventually did have her reassigned to another company as he had no idea that she was deliberately scuppering the recruitment process by taking matters into her own hands.

However many people like this people, who simply would not have a job in the Western world sit in Aspin and FZ HQ T2 racking up countless hours on Facebook and the Khaleej Times and simply ignoring your details sitting in a inbox as they don't get paid any more or any less i another non subcontinental joins.

In sum if your application is seen by the right person at the right time on a day that they are not busy you can go from application to hire in under 6-8 weeks. Some guys take 2 yrs to get the same process done just because of numerous reasons but mostly because there are no processes, they are not audited, no one cares, general malaise, poor management, lack of motivation, lack of general interest, never ending and repetitive cycle of hiring people who think they really want FZ and have ignored everything those of us who have first hadn't experience tell them and want to join and who of course when they become wise to the actually situation then wish to leave again.

In essence, just remember you are not important, you are a bum on a seat, they don't care if they hire you or another pilot as you will both be the same amount of effort for them. Feedback is given when and if it suits and when they are left with little choice. So if they have a course that needs filling they will happily ask if you can start Monday.

If they don't have a course and it's Ramadam perhaps they will reply perhaps they will simply delete you email along with 50 others from their inbox and deal with the crocodiles nearest the table.

If you have a chance to go to HK Express why on gods earth would you choose that over flydubai!

F2L

Even with bad reputations regarding HR, flydubai still a good option, in my opinion, Dubai is an amazing city, expensive, but, lots of space, wide avenues, lots of entertaiment... people say that rosters are terrible but I have friends that love the shortage of layovers... HK, I don t think is a good ideia, salary is little bit lower and you need to pay 15% TAX, a 600 sq/ft apartment will coast 3.5k USD, for the same value you get a 1,500+ sq/ft in Dubai...I have my fingers crossed and holpe that flydubai will restart hiring soon!

Vortex Thing

Fly 2 Live I think the problem here is that you think the rosters are the biggest problem! They are an annoyance but rosters alone wouldn't ever dissuade me nor would I dissuade someone else from joining due to them.

It is the utter contempt and lack or professionalism that allows you to be treated with such disdain that neither you nor your family matter. I couldnt care if tax is 50% it only matters what you have disposable at the end of the month not how much your gross is!!

I never cared and still don't care how hard I work, I think if a firm pays you they can treat you however badly they wish from a legal rostering perspective. ( I don't call this good practice and wouldn't do it myself ) but it is within their gift and so would unlikely be the biggest factor in a stay or go decision.

However in HK the legal system is similar to UK. Wasta has some play in every society but in Dubai firms like FZ act as if above the law on a daily basis. They will send you possibly and knowingly to your death. That is what you are worth to them. If that is worth a slightly bigger apartment then fill your boots.

You want Dubai then join EK. They will treat you badly but not as badly as FZ and at least you won't be a second class citizen in Dubai (except when it comes to locals that is)

what-to-do

F2L, clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. As you are crossing your fingers in the hope that FZ starts hiring again soon, you are someone hoping to be hired, correct?

If so, how are you in a position to suggest it's a good option? 67% drop in profit and unpaid leave on offer.....many many pilots have left and are leaving. Could it be that things might not be quite right?

if you want to apply, apply. However, before you say what a good option it is, come and dip your toe in first.

F2L

Dear What-to-do, as I said "in my opinion", it means that is what I THINK (based on friends feedback)..... YES I m looking forward for a flydubai position and waiting for DOJ, and if you don't like working at FZ, what are you doing working there? as I know, no one is obligated to remain in a job that he don t like... you should know that economie is not a rocket to space, it has ups and downs... the profits is running low all around the world even china is not growing as growed in the past...

Forums are funny, every company that you seek for information, you only see complains... pilots always complaining about every thing... people leave their countries looking for better salary better life, once they found it, they start to complain!! I m seeking for a job that pays good, not for a father to tell me how much he love me every day....

Luibar

Unpaid leaving and recruiting?

dubaigong

Guys , let him come here , he will find out how things really are and then he will most probably be one of those complaining about FZ...

F2L

Guys there is a lot of pilots jobs around the world, why complain?? Just quit... simple... i have been in aviation for the last 20 years, all the places I have been working is the same... for me treat me bad is work all month and get a delay paycheck.

Feedbacks is very important, but sometimes it seems that some a guys are tortured...

what-to-do

F2L, are you hoping that FZ starts recruiting soon or you have a DOJ? Which is it?

So I if I don't like it leave hey...... you'll fit right in if/when you get here. With regard to opinions, believe it or not, people (pilots) post both good and negative comments on this forum, unfortunately, FZ has more than its fair share of negative ones...... most of which are based on factual information shared for your benefit.

If you don't like it, don't take any notice... But you have to ask why so many FZ pilots left and are still leaving? Again, if you're not interested, don't take any notice, but all the info you need is on this forum.

F2L

Why people leave??? The company is on its way for a bankruptcy ? yes, I m here looking for feedbacks, not for complains like "FZ treats me bad, they are not organized, rosters are bad"... because those opinions are strictly personal and vary a lot, and I prefer listen feedbacks from my friends, people from the same place, culture etc etc...

DOJ (date of join)...

And why they open new pilots vacancies if they won't hire???

what-to-do

People leave because they are unhappy, simple. If they were happy, then the numbers would tell a different story.

I agree, personal opinion do vary, and some people complain about everything. However, when so many people complain about the same things, then isn't that more of a trend, and therefore indicative of what life may actually be like at FZ?

It may be a personal opinion, but it's an opinion shared by many. If you join and don't expect much, you wont be too disappointed.