Freight DogsFinally a forum for those midnight prowler types who utilise the unglamorous parts of airports that many of us never get to see. Freight Dogs is for pilots and crew who operate mostly without SLF.
I guess with atlas flying the old perennial money losing polar routes,,,,theyre now making money? think its the other way around...
AFAIK, those routes are not being flown at all as scheduled service. However, there are occasional, but irregular, charters by various shippers between the same city pairs. That is inevitable with the withdrawal of so much lift from the industry in the past couple years.
mia-viracopos-santiago-lima-mia,,that was a scheduled polar run,,,if memory serves me right, its a scheduled run for atlas. question, where did polar`s clients go after the dhl transition?
I suspect all those forwarders simply went to Southern, Kalitta, and others who run the same routes. Well before DHL, much of the former Polar trans-Pacific traffic went to Kalitta via Bettie Ward's contracts with them.
Yes, Polar did fly that route for some time under Atlas Air's route authority. In more recent times, with a change in management, the tactic has changed to be more economically driven than just as a tool for management to make a point to the Atlas labor force.
Atlas/Polar is now 95% ACMI and will begin passenger service soon on the Atlas side of house. Possible Atlas/Polar merger in the near future. Atlas/Polar negotiations continue with the Atlas Worlwide holding co.
The POI's of both have deferred to Washington on the issue and are awaiting it's response. That has probably already been bought and paid for so to speak.
As I understand, the POI's of both certificates want to be the boss of the other or the remaining POI of the combined mess.
The manuals have been merged (for the worse in my opinion). Little more is needed except Washington's approval and the pilot contract merger.
Flightmech said: "Apparently the first of the Atlas pax -400's for the Sonair operation has been recently been in a new colour scheme at the HAECO facility in HKG?"
Does anyone have pictures of the Atlas pax -400 in Sonair colors?
It's actually in updated Atlas scheme (Not Sonair) but different colors. I think it compliments the existing Atlas scheme quite well which in my opinion is one of the best paint schemes flying.
"Hopefully this passenger flying will help to pay for the pending VERY LARGE union assessment"
Not sure how much of a money maker as opposed to a cost coverer this contract will be, but I wish you luck. The last company that tried to rely on the AMC pax market with 747s was Tower.....AMC is going smaller, the total numbers for the short term are higher but the per flight numbers are definitely trending into the sub 300s, hence the growing number of 767s, to replace DC10s, into the market.
Intruder you're close but not entirely correct. The rest of the details are not suitable for public consumption (yet).
For the most part Atlas ACMI + Unique aircraft with unique capabilities = wide range customer base and providing services beyond what any other ACMI operator to date can provide.
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