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Old 29th Jun 2012, 14:51   #1 (permalink)
 
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Paris Hotel

Did anyone else notice the NTC about the change of hotel in Paris.

It might sound great, but it's just around the corner from the airport.

Location, location, location ??????

35 mins to the city??? In the TGV maybe.

The previous hotel was nothing short of a dump, and the location just outside the perifique was pretty 2 star, but come on guys, we must be able to do better than this.
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Old 30th Jun 2012, 00:30   #2 (permalink)
 
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but come on guys, we must be able to do better than this.

Do you really think we have any say in the matter, or that our opinion matters in the slightest?
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Old 30th Jun 2012, 00:37   #3 (permalink)
 
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Our opinion does have a say. But guys are simply not opineing.

You place your opinion when you call in unfit for an unacceptable overnight. This is why the cabin crew will not be staying in the same hotel. Management knows that if they put them at this dump by the airport the sick calls will go up enough to make it counterproductive.

We need more guys to think this way, it is the only thing a company such as Cathay understands. Haven't you guys learned this yet?
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Old 30th Jun 2012, 01:51   #4 (permalink)
 
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True its a pain to get to town

Take the village bus to CDG (7mins to Terminal 2F) then
3min walk to RER station.
RER line 2B takes you to Gare Du Nord in 30mins.

The village Roissy En France has a small Casino (shitty supermarket), a couple of very average restaurants and a very good boulangerie (bread shop)

It also has some great hotel bars!!

The Mellennium is excellent with lots of overnighting business travellers
The Mercure has a fab beer garden in the summer with plenty of aircrew/cabin crew and
The Novotel has late night parties in the 'crew room' with the girls from TAM airways

......I plead the 5th on how I know this stuff

Getting back from the city late at night is real schlep....be careful as taxi's are expensive and the trains dont run late at night

PS: Car rental is cheap & very easy from Terminal 2, so perhaps kiss Paris off completely?
Verdun is really cool & Reims is close by too.....my advice is get out of town and go on a champagne tasting or a battlefield tour (the battlefields of WW1 are just 1.5hrs away!)

Dont let CX spoil the party

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Old 30th Jun 2012, 03:54   #5 (permalink)
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It's obvious why the new 6 day pattern to Paris is staying out there, penny pinching on allowances as usual.
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Old 30th Jun 2012, 05:23   #6 (permalink)
 
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Some with longer memories will recall we've stayed at the Airport before. At the Hyatt first then another smaller hotel. Roissy is a nice little town with a few good places to eat and is only a short pickup.

Could be worse.

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Old 30th Jun 2012, 07:29   #7 (permalink)
 
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I would strongly recommend AGAINST taking the RER into the city.

There are 2 different RERs you can take. One is an express and the other stops at every station through some of the most dangerous banlieue of Paris.

It is easy to get mixed up with the two due to the less than average RER information system at CDG. I personally know of one person who has been mugged on this line in broad daylight in front of a bunch of other passengers. If memory serves me correctly there is a shuttle from the new hotel into town, although I may be wrong.
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Old 30th Jun 2012, 09:20   #8 (permalink)

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Agree that RER line is an unpleasant place to be after dark. Few Parisiens would take it. Taxi is around €45 if there are a few of you, but that's pretty rare.

There are plenty of moderately good hotels in Paris but not at the price CX are prepared to pay.
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Old 30th Jun 2012, 12:25   #9 (permalink)
 
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NTC says there is a free hotel shuttle into the city center, wherever that is.

And of course it will surely always be fully booked long before you arrive or know which time you want to go/return.

Thanks!
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