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Old 6th Oct 2001, 03:57
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Unhappy Virgin Blue Interviews

Does anyone know what Virgin Blue look for in their Cabin Crew??? I have just received my rejection letter from them and immediatly set about ringing up the people I swapped phone numbers with on the day. Well to my surprise not one of these people received a call back either!!!

Now this group of people make up a slightly motley crew --- some young, some old, some quite, some bubbly, some expereinced and some wannabees-- so surely there would be at least one who would meet their criteria!!

So now you can understand my curiosity!!!

I don't need any sympathy over this as I only applied to VB because I heard Qantas won't be recruiting again until the end of next year(is this true??), and they are who I really want to work for!! But still my curiosity runs rampant!!!
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Hi Smile,
not sure of the criteria but of the many ex-AN girls who have missed out I finally met a girl yesterday who was successful.She was ex FlightForce(casual) <21yo,not bubbly or over the top,pleasant nature.I will have to say though,she was stunningly attractive.She had one interview & said it was a breeze.
Good luck with QF and the career path it offers.
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Smile,

I dare say you are also one of the pretty, talented and ethical people out there who deserve a cabin crew job just like me....I have the same question re virgin blue....the thing with Virgin is that by 2005 they will have interviewed nearly every australian citizen, meaning that for the few positions available they interview hundreds of people and reject them all.

As far as I can tell they are looking for people who can manicure their nails well, face paint, sell virgin merchandise in-flight, sing and preferably have no " credible " customer service experience. It seems they are not interested in anyone who may appear traditionally " professional " in an airline type of way...........it's all about their Virgin culture which they believe cannot be practiced by any other airline staff wanting to work for them.

I still want to work for them and some may call me bitter...and I am ! only because just like you, I have so much to give and get frustrated at how they treat everyone who wants to work for them.

Virgin Smirgin.......
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Sonique thanks for the compliment but.... you forgot to mention that we are also passionate, professional(without being intimidating), and just want to fly.

I was interviewed with a couple of ex-Ansett employees and not one of them made it through. I feel for them as some feel as though they are getting the run around-- they feel that the only reason they are being offered interview positions in the first place is because of good PR. I am not in the position to comment-- but I have become friends with these people and I can assure you that they are some of the most wonderful people i have ever met. Everything I would have thought to be a 'criteria' for Cabin Crew.

Well I beleive everything happens for a reason, so I guess I am not ment to fly for VB-- oh well.

But..... does anyone know when Qantas will start recruting for Australian Airlines??
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Smile,

I also heard the same thing " internally " about QF recruitment not being until end of year 2002, it's all a bit crazy at the moment. A close mate of mine who I work with at QF was waiting for 5 months after his 3rd interview to hear something, 2 weeks ago he got his rejection letter after 5 months of not knowing a thing, it's pretty depressing really...But...what can you do !

As for Australian Airlines there will be no recruitment until the " proposal " is approved by QF for the low cost operation, the management team at Australian are still putting the proposal together and when it does come time for the recruitment it will be done by Australian and not Qantas ( I belive the proposal is to be submitted by end october ). I am also told that QF staff will not be able to just simply transfer across to AA as it a seperate airline but just owned by QF - similar to Air NZ and Freedom Air in that you can't just transfer.

Maybe you and I should pack our little brisvegas butts up and try for cabin crew with emirates or something ! It seems VB don't want me either, although.. I was interviewed a long long time ago and things have changed since then with my experience.....but I just can't score a second chance for another interview !

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Cabinboy,

If I read correctly you already work at QF. Well then I would gladly swap my job for yours. ( Although I am guessing that you may not work in cabin crew.) Still one foot in the door is better than nothing!!

I'm hoping that when you said that the 'proposal' for AA will be out at the end of Oct you meant this year, because that makes recrutment a little closer that I thought. ( should i guess middle of next year?)

As for Virgin, well I guess i was a little relieved. My dealings with them over the last week have been alittle less than professional. I was willing to put that down to the restlessness in the industry, but a few others have told me this is usual. For example my interview was last Thursday week, my rejection letter was dated the following Monday, but i was called on the wednesday to see if I had been to an interview yet....

Anyway I don't think that red lipstick is my colour!!!!
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You're probably right smile - red lipstick may well not be your colour!!! And correct me if I am wrong - but facepainting is not what I call a 'skill' - when was the last time you saw this being offered at TAFE???

I imagine with all the goings on in the industry that Australian Airlines may well recruit by the start of next year?? CabinBoy would probably know more, since he's with QF and knows ALL the goss!!

That, combined with the surplus in aircraft by many of the worlds airlines - BA included - could well mean that QF start things up pretty quickly (if you can't get a seat domestically, you may as well go internationally, no???) And why not - considering Australian want to fly to destinations unable to be served by QF Long Haul profitably - such as Greece, Malaysia, and cities like Fukuoka, Jakarta, Shanghai, Vancouver, etc.

Sorry to hear about your experience with VB smile - even I've been through it (twice now) and the people I have seen them take don't have many redeeming features (well, they are very attractive, but who's surprised here??)

One thing I'd like to know - with Ansett in the state that it is, who's going to do the EP training for VB crew? VB crew trained at the Ansett facility (which, dare I say, is closed down till further notice) - so would they in fact train at QF's Melbourne facility? Or is the AN Astrojet Centre still open for business??
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Virgin Blue do their own training, including EPs. They don't need other airlines to help them anymore. The only VB school that was trained using the Ansett facility was the initial school over 12 months ago.

Its obviously time for everyone to stick it into poor old Virgin Blue again
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Hi Ditch, this thread isn't a 'stick it to Virgin' thread, so I'm sorry if it came across that way. Besides after being a member on this site for a couple of months now, I feel that each airline gets their fair share of 'sticking to'.

As for the comments about the people who do get through the interviews, it's only natural for humans to compare themselves to those who are more 'successful' (??) in certain situations in order to assess thier own shortcomings. I guess maybe the looks of the average VB cabin crew seem to stick in peoples minds!!
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Smile..I understand that your original post was not directed at bashing Virgin Blue, and my comments were not directed at you. I wish you all the luck in this world towards securing your dream job...If I was a Cabin Crew manager I would give you a job on determination alone. My comments were directed at the usual suspects (2 in particular) that always end up being VERY critical of Virgin Blue with their constant snide remarks, not only on this thread but others previously. TO THOSE SUSPECTS, you may be Flight Attendants, while others are not. Be grateful you are where you are, and concentrate on your career with your airline, and stop bashing someone elses airline who they may be proud to work for.

Try to help those who wish to be where you are, and get it into your heads that you are damn lucky.

Good luck smile with your career.

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Smile,

No-one can really say what Virgin Blue are looking for, but they do have some very consistant features.
1. Most of them are beautiful
2. Most of them are young and silly
3. Most of them are not very bright :o
4. Most of them are willing to make fools of themselves over the PA, sing and dance, scrub the dunny and sell the tacky merchandise.

A close friend of mine was just offerd a position with Emirates and just before that Qantas...but...virgin sent her out the rejection letter. The mind boggles

To those of you who missed out on Virgin Blue, don't worry, it's probably a compliment. Besides, alot of people have the feeling they won't be around much longer because their parent company is a basket case.
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I'd be interested to see just how Firewall_999 conducted his/her survey and managed to meet most of the Virgin Crews. I think that perhaps the post should read:

1. Most of them are far better looking than ours (sob...sob...)
2. Most of them are young and eager to explore the world and have fun
3. Most of them are very good at putting people at ease and willing to learn
4. Most of them are here to have fun, undestand what the Virgin Blues target market are after and havent yet been infected with the "screw 'em for all you can get" mentality apparent in other airlines.

Those with a "holier than thou" attitude need not apply it would seem.

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Ditch, thanks for wishing me luck!!! And I too wish that determination was a criteria, I would have been offered a job a long time ago!!!

Firewall, I guess your friend and I are prime examples of the difference between what Qantas and Virgin are looking for in crew. I made it through to the third interview with Qantas earlier in the year ( but I wasn't offered a position), yet I can't get a look in after the first interview at Virgin. Maybe I should just be patient and wait for the airline I really want to work for!!
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Hi Smile and fellow ppruners,

Yes I am with QF but only on the ground taking phone reservations. I applied thinking that it may be a foot in the door and a chance to learn a lot more about the industry. Unfortunetly 16 months later it becomes clearer every day that I am transferring no where! I am honestly stuck, and in hindsight I feel as though I may have had a better chance with VB if I didn't have Qantas as a employer beside my name - maybe VB think that I think I am " holier than thou ".......I can tell you I do not think that and get upset at the thought of being stereotyped.

I know I am lucky to even have a job but sitting down for 8 hours a day wasn't the plan, running around madly serving coffee/tea to varied passengers with 3am starts was the plan ! I am 22yrs old and have the food&bev and face to face experience as well as the young funky virgin look, I also have an understanding for the virgin culture and what they are about..

Maybe some VB staff could offer some advice as to what they DO look for, instead of specualtion which is currently being offered on this topic.

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P.S - Smile, perhaps you and I can streek naked through the Virgin head office to get their attention or something If you are game then I am ...email me !!
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Cabinboy

I don't know how many times you tried for
VB, but I do know that people have got in
on their 3rd and 4th attempt, many of their
F/A's are ex Sheraton and other 5 star hotel
employees as well as ex nurses if that helps,
as the old saying goes,"If at first you don,t
succeed, try, try again" good luck in future.

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Smile: Don't worry.Just keep trying cos what's meant to be blah blah.I'd been trying for six years to get in as cabin crew when eventually EK of all people gave me a break (ok so it was just after the gulf war and they may have been desparate). Five years with EK didn't mean a jot with BA and others with more experience than myself also got canned. What I'm trying to say to you and cabinboy is DON'T give up!There is always someone who will recognize your talents and make use of them.You don't want to do face painting anyway;the pay's no good.
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Cabinboy, If we streak naked through the VB headoffice, will we have the word 'Virgin' strategically placed on certain parts of our bodies.... or maybe pictures of Sir Richard smiling!!!
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Remembering that I am " male " smile will probably help in the streeking situation ! I think all eyes would be on you girlfriend !

I heard today that DJ are recruiting in MEL and that they receive 200 applications EACH DAY for cabin crew.

No wonder they haven't even looked at my application on the staff.cv website.
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Hey guys, well i have just had a Vb interview on tue and i think it went well, but from what i have read on here i don't feel very confident anymore
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dreams - keep your chin up, you haven't been told the outcome yet !....stay positive

Dreams do you have previous f/a experience ? Whats your background ?
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