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Blackpool have used marquees. Interesting experience seeing the walls move in the breeze. Yes, Luton as well but that was 50 years ago but is still remembered and gave the airport a shocking reputation that they never really lost. From 16 seconds.
https://youtu.be/6-HPg5oGlww?si=SAVPM7gXUjtT77ZY
https://youtu.be/6-HPg5oGlww?si=SAVPM7gXUjtT77ZY
What I’m more intrigued about is how they intend to put another baggage belt in - where would it go?
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Some of the above posts are beginning to appear stupid and ignorant to say the least , previous posts explain what’s happening , please read
There is no need for planning applications as the original terminal plans and building allowed for continuous and controlled development when needed
The original terminal was built around 2010 but no expansion was ever needed until this year
The MAG group built the original terminal then promptly sold it to the Rigby group then a recession hit plus covid and the rest is history until now
Jet 2 would never have even entertained BOH unless future plans were going to be put in place
None of us are privy to what discussions are happening with the airport and airlines , it’s less than a week that this was announced
Step back a bit and see what happens
There is no need for planning applications as the original terminal plans and building allowed for continuous and controlled development when needed
The original terminal was built around 2010 but no expansion was ever needed until this year
The MAG group built the original terminal then promptly sold it to the Rigby group then a recession hit plus covid and the rest is history until now
Jet 2 would never have even entertained BOH unless future plans were going to be put in place
None of us are privy to what discussions are happening with the airport and airlines , it’s less than a week that this was announced
Step back a bit and see what happens
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Some of the above posts are beginning to appear stupid and ignorant to say the least , previous posts explain what’s happening , please read
There is no need for planning applications as the original terminal plans and building allowed for continuous and controlled development when needed
The original terminal was built around 2010 but no expansion was ever needed until this year
The MAG group built the original terminal then promptly sold it to the Rigby group then a recession hit plus covid and the rest is history until now
Jet 2 would never have even entertained BOH unless future plans were going to be put in place
None of us are privy to what discussions are happening with the airport and airlines , it’s less than a week that this was announced
Step back a bit and see what happens
There is no need for planning applications as the original terminal plans and building allowed for continuous and controlled development when needed
The original terminal was built around 2010 but no expansion was ever needed until this year
The MAG group built the original terminal then promptly sold it to the Rigby group then a recession hit plus covid and the rest is history until now
Jet 2 would never have even entertained BOH unless future plans were going to be put in place
None of us are privy to what discussions are happening with the airport and airlines , it’s less than a week that this was announced
Step back a bit and see what happens
it's not only this thread that needs a bit of a reality check those on the Southampton thread seem to believe Bournemouth will implode and it will take 2 years for planning permission etc. And no this is not a my airport is better than yours etc but there is so much uninformed posts going around on both threads. Jet 2 aren't arriving for another year! The rigby group/ RCA aviation division have their heads screwed on, they will already have a plan in place to ensure a smooth transition for this extra capacity now and into the future. It's not like this was a surprise to them.
like you say sit back and wait. I'm sure the airports plans are already in motion. And anyway still the 2024 summer season to enjoy first
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Don’t confuse a master plan written in 2006 with having planning permission already in place. I have quickly looked on the Christchurch planning applications website at the original terminal extension plans and there is no reference that I could find to joining those two buildings. Also note that application was over 15 years ago so any additional work allowed has probable expired in terms of a timespan when it could start. Normal planning only allows for. 5 year wait I think before commencement of works!
From the Bournemouth Echo
”Meanwhile, tour operator TUI also announced it will add a second aircraft at Bournemouth in 2024 with an extra 60,000 seats available, a 33 per cent increase on its 2023 schedule.
Steve Gill, managing director of Bournemouth Airport, said he is “confident” of seeing more than one million passengers pass through the terminal in 2024.
As part of the anticipated growth, airport owners Regional and City Airports will be pumping more than £5m into new facilities, equipment, staff and training.
Bournemouth Airport has said passengers will notice several improvements over the coming months as part of the investment programme.
These include an upgraded security search area with new scanning kit to relax the restriction on liquids and the need to take electronics out of bags when the works are complete. “
Is the TUI second plane ‘ News?
Paper does not say when work will be carried out
Mike
”Meanwhile, tour operator TUI also announced it will add a second aircraft at Bournemouth in 2024 with an extra 60,000 seats available, a 33 per cent increase on its 2023 schedule.
Steve Gill, managing director of Bournemouth Airport, said he is “confident” of seeing more than one million passengers pass through the terminal in 2024.
As part of the anticipated growth, airport owners Regional and City Airports will be pumping more than £5m into new facilities, equipment, staff and training.
Bournemouth Airport has said passengers will notice several improvements over the coming months as part of the investment programme.
These include an upgraded security search area with new scanning kit to relax the restriction on liquids and the need to take electronics out of bags when the works are complete. “
Is the TUI second plane ‘ News?
Paper does not say when work will be carried out
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That picture from the masterplan does not quite tell the whole story though. It's worth remembering that this was published in 2007 by MAG and there's no indication it was updated. It is therefore 17 years old now.
If we cast our minds back to when the terminal was upgraded, the original plan was for the departures to be built as now, with the original arrival portacabin structures remaining as domestic arrivals with a much larger two storey international arrivals hall being built in a similar position to now. But then the economy crashed in 2008 and MAG then decided to change the plans. The new arrival hall was eventually built substantially smaller and the existing structures were removed. This resulted from a second round of planning applications in 2010. MAG believed the previous design was not sustainable in the new environment and could cram the new combined arrival facilities into a much smaller flat roofed footprint. This is what was eventually built with the old arrivals building being cleared out in the process.
They clearly can't knock the new arrivals hall down and build the original design now. That wouldn't be valid given the subsequent planning approvals anyway. There is nothing in the planning approvals that allowed building new structures in between the two buildings at this stage. Clearly the unstated intention was to leave that space free for easy future development.
Despite the southern sector being green belt and the attempted judicial review of the original terminal planning approval I think future development in this void space has a reasonable chance of going through. But it surely will have to go through the lengthy planning process I'm afraid. It will also be at risk of political point scoring delaying and adding extra cost to the process. I think from reading the tea leaves that they are planning to manage next summer with the facilities as-is, plus the current £5m round of improvements of course.
It's worth remembering that many things from the master plan and original planning applications haven't come to pass, such as the section 106 agreement for the airport to fund an hourly bus service for a minimum of 12 hours a day (presumably negotiated away during the collapse in air traffic) and the southern car park, which was to be bis served and located roughly underneath taxiway bravo with taxiway alpha becoming a branch off bravo. That never came to pass and would have been expensive to operate. With the cargo hard standing now built, it's hard to see that coming to pass in that location.
All of this information can be found on the BCP planning website in the Christchurch section. Put "airport" in the address box and scroll back through to 2007 and 2010.
If we cast our minds back to when the terminal was upgraded, the original plan was for the departures to be built as now, with the original arrival portacabin structures remaining as domestic arrivals with a much larger two storey international arrivals hall being built in a similar position to now. But then the economy crashed in 2008 and MAG then decided to change the plans. The new arrival hall was eventually built substantially smaller and the existing structures were removed. This resulted from a second round of planning applications in 2010. MAG believed the previous design was not sustainable in the new environment and could cram the new combined arrival facilities into a much smaller flat roofed footprint. This is what was eventually built with the old arrivals building being cleared out in the process.
They clearly can't knock the new arrivals hall down and build the original design now. That wouldn't be valid given the subsequent planning approvals anyway. There is nothing in the planning approvals that allowed building new structures in between the two buildings at this stage. Clearly the unstated intention was to leave that space free for easy future development.
Despite the southern sector being green belt and the attempted judicial review of the original terminal planning approval I think future development in this void space has a reasonable chance of going through. But it surely will have to go through the lengthy planning process I'm afraid. It will also be at risk of political point scoring delaying and adding extra cost to the process. I think from reading the tea leaves that they are planning to manage next summer with the facilities as-is, plus the current £5m round of improvements of course.
It's worth remembering that many things from the master plan and original planning applications haven't come to pass, such as the section 106 agreement for the airport to fund an hourly bus service for a minimum of 12 hours a day (presumably negotiated away during the collapse in air traffic) and the southern car park, which was to be bis served and located roughly underneath taxiway bravo with taxiway alpha becoming a branch off bravo. That never came to pass and would have been expensive to operate. With the cargo hard standing now built, it's hard to see that coming to pass in that location.
All of this information can be found on the BCP planning website in the Christchurch section. Put "airport" in the address box and scroll back through to 2007 and 2010.
BUT Bournemouth Airport isn't starting from "Little acorns"!
Bournemouth Airport is an established airport with an existing terminal. Very unlike the photo of "London Airport" which you have provided, which was probably taken in 1946. The photo and "little acorns" reference has absolutely nothing to do with Bournemouth Airport.
Bournemouth Airport is an established airport with an existing terminal. Very unlike the photo of "London Airport" which you have provided, which was probably taken in 1946. The photo and "little acorns" reference has absolutely nothing to do with Bournemouth Airport.
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I am sure those familiar with the airport can offer potential solutions. I certainly think operators will follow BOHs progress with interest. You have Hurned the right to be taken seriously.
" It's worth remembering that this was published in 2007 by MAG and there's no indication it was updated. It is therefore 17 years old now."
exactly -we've had financial melt down, BREXIT and Covid since - its not a reliable guide
exactly -we've had financial melt down, BREXIT and Covid since - its not a reliable guide
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At some point in the future the fire station and the tower could get relocated in order to extend the western apron. If both Jet2 and Ryanair grow the number of based aircraft this may eventually become necessary. Most logically the tower and fire station would go to the north side. Perhaps one day (by 2030 at a guess).
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It seems that the hysterical and exaggerated comments, usually associated with the airport down the roads page, have seen a take over here, on what is a fantastic achievement by Rigby and the airport management to grow the routes and operators and seemingly keep these large companies happy. As has been said, don’t think for one minute, these large operators, or the shrewd team in charge, haven’t agreed and detailed the plan that allows this expansion.
As for a bus, yes it’s the missing link 110%, but one of the two operators in the BCP area collapsed leaving just one, it would be their decision on routes, sadly not the airport, but with this news now it finally may very soon be financially viable for a Christchurch, Pokesdown, Bournemouth loop express loop service.
As for a bus, yes it’s the missing link 110%, but one of the two operators in the BCP area collapsed leaving just one, it would be their decision on routes, sadly not the airport, but with this news now it finally may very soon be financially viable for a Christchurch, Pokesdown, Bournemouth loop express loop service.
Could BOH next summer actually park, and turnaround 6 or possibly 7 x 737-800's on the ramp at any one time ?
Can they actually accommodate that now >?
TIA.
I do not feel there have been that many hysterical and exaggerated comments here on the BOH thread.
OK, possibly one or two very over enthusiastic planespotter ones (lol) but on the whole it's a reasonably cordial debate.
It's all pretty good news for the Airport.
RCA now need to ensure that Ground Handling of all areas and aspects will be on full strength to meet the peaks next summer, and Jet2's arrival now puts TUI Holidays very much 'on point'.
The local Travel Agents that I have spoken to are all very excited in my area and they tell me that they have at last, got ''something different'' to sell to the customers.
Demand for holidays is strong despite the Economy, we live in a pretty affluent region, and many folk will now no longer have to go up to BRS or LGW.
As for a local Bus Service from Bournemouth Town Centre and the Interchange...
TBH and IMO I really do not think that most TUI and Jet2 Holidays passengers would be interested in lugging their bags onto a Bus for the airport, chugging through the back streets of town...
Most get dropped off, take a Taxi, or park their car and seem happy to do so.
The Drop Off Fee (Ok, we don't like it) does help towards the Airport's costs, and the Car Park charges also do.
BOH Airport do offer discounts to prepay for your Parking.
The local Taxi firms get plenty of work.
Thus, frankly I cannot see a better bus link working for that many folk - But it could help some of the Airport Staff....
What does need to be improved are the access roads if coming from the A31 and the A338 in due course.
If I use the airport I get dropped off, or take a Taxi, as do all my friends and family.
Locally, EXT Exeter Airport is weak, with only TUI offering 'mirror image Packages' flying from there, with only one based 737 with no planned growth expected (TUI at EXT was to have increased to two aircraft pre-Pandemic).
Exeter are possibly at their lowest point in decades in offering Package Holidays.
Ryanair are flexing their muscles there however, as they are too from NQY Newquay.
Ryanair are very much prevalent now in the South and Southwest, at BOH, BRS, EXT and now NQY.
Can they actually accommodate that now >?
TIA.
I do not feel there have been that many hysterical and exaggerated comments here on the BOH thread.
OK, possibly one or two very over enthusiastic planespotter ones (lol) but on the whole it's a reasonably cordial debate.
It's all pretty good news for the Airport.
RCA now need to ensure that Ground Handling of all areas and aspects will be on full strength to meet the peaks next summer, and Jet2's arrival now puts TUI Holidays very much 'on point'.
The local Travel Agents that I have spoken to are all very excited in my area and they tell me that they have at last, got ''something different'' to sell to the customers.
Demand for holidays is strong despite the Economy, we live in a pretty affluent region, and many folk will now no longer have to go up to BRS or LGW.
As for a local Bus Service from Bournemouth Town Centre and the Interchange...
TBH and IMO I really do not think that most TUI and Jet2 Holidays passengers would be interested in lugging their bags onto a Bus for the airport, chugging through the back streets of town...
Most get dropped off, take a Taxi, or park their car and seem happy to do so.
The Drop Off Fee (Ok, we don't like it) does help towards the Airport's costs, and the Car Park charges also do.
BOH Airport do offer discounts to prepay for your Parking.
The local Taxi firms get plenty of work.
Thus, frankly I cannot see a better bus link working for that many folk - But it could help some of the Airport Staff....
What does need to be improved are the access roads if coming from the A31 and the A338 in due course.
If I use the airport I get dropped off, or take a Taxi, as do all my friends and family.
Locally, EXT Exeter Airport is weak, with only TUI offering 'mirror image Packages' flying from there, with only one based 737 with no planned growth expected (TUI at EXT was to have increased to two aircraft pre-Pandemic).
Exeter are possibly at their lowest point in decades in offering Package Holidays.
Ryanair are flexing their muscles there however, as they are too from NQY Newquay.
Ryanair are very much prevalent now in the South and Southwest, at BOH, BRS, EXT and now NQY.
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Easyjet have just responded to Jet2 Holidays news of their new base at BOH....
Latest news is that Easyjet just announced a 2 aircraft base at SOU Southampton from Summer 2025 with similar current route offerings and to include Manchester, Jersey, Corfu and Lanzarote - yay! at last something new for SOU.
Latest news is that Easyjet just announced a 2 aircraft base at SOU Southampton from Summer 2025 with similar current route offerings and to include Manchester, Jersey, Corfu and Lanzarote - yay! at last something new for SOU.
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At some point in the future the fire station and the tower could get relocated in order to extend the western apron. If both Jet2 and Ryanair grow the number of based aircraft this may eventually become necessary. Most logically the tower and fire station would go to the north side. Perhaps one day (by 2030 at a guess).
Before any need of demolition, I believe cargo will be moved north side & remote commercial aprons will be used on taxiway Bravo.
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Cargo needs to be relocated north. Although they are doing a sterling job, massive 18-wheeler trucks seem to be interacting across the passenger terminal area. A few times now I’ve seen boarding paused for flights as these trucks navigate the apron to get out through the check-point. Dangerous in my opinion.
But as much as I’d love to see that old channel express cargo shed pulled down, I believe it’s a listed building!!
But as much as I’d love to see that old channel express cargo shed pulled down, I believe it’s a listed building!!
Best option for more stands would be to the north of the terminal around the corner where the ground training and carpark 3 are. There is room for at least 4 more stands for 737 size aircraft. ISTR there was a drawing for that when the new terminal was proposed.The security point for airside access could move to near the cargo shed.
Cargo shed I believe is listed as that is where Winston Churchill's aircraft was hangared., but it is only a T2 hangar and there are plenty of those around.
Back in the 1960s there was a proposal for a terminal where the main carpark is. It was to have a finger on the apron with north and south facing stands a bit like Gatwick in the early 60s..
Cargo shed I believe is listed as that is where Winston Churchill's aircraft was hangared., but it is only a T2 hangar and there are plenty of those around.
Back in the 1960s there was a proposal for a terminal where the main carpark is. It was to have a finger on the apron with north and south facing stands a bit like Gatwick in the early 60s..