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Its being operating since 25 March this year, according to EI website all 3 flights tomorrow are A319
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Any comments on the UK ruling on FR's shareholding in EI; EI has welcomed it and it opens the way to an OFT inquiry.
Aer Lingus Welcomes UK Court Ruling Over Ryanair's Share Holding - WSJ.com
What's the likely outcome here? Could FR be forced to dispose of its shareholding?
Aer Lingus Welcomes UK Court Ruling Over Ryanair's Share Holding - WSJ.com
What's the likely outcome here? Could FR be forced to dispose of its shareholding?
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Originally Posted by akerosid
Any comments on the UK ruling on FR's shareholding in EI; EI has welcomed it and it opens the way to an OFT inquiry.
And that's before mentioning the fact that both airlines involved are based in Ireland, which is equivalent to the Irish Competition Authority attempting to block a merger between BA and BMI.
It's just a complete waste of UK taxpayer's money.
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Just remember though it was the european commision which blocked take over and it was on competition grounds and also the fact that they have dealt in recent times against a lot of anti competitive practices such as price fixing. I dont suppose the UK competition authority have time or money to waste on things these days and are no doubt working with the EU anyway otherwise why bother. It may very well be an investigation by the EU being tackled by indirect means.
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Originally Posted by mart901
It may very well be an investigation by the EU being tackled by indirect means.
The fact is the EC have done their investigations and made the decision to block a merger between Ryanair and Aer Lingus, which was later upheld by the European Courts of Justice, who also ruled Ryanair could retain their 30% shareholding.
So there's nothing for the UK OFT to investigate, they're just wasting their own taxpayers money.
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And that's before mentioning the fact that both airlines involved are based in Ireland, which is equivalent to the Irish Competition Authority attempting to block a merger between BA and BMI.
To put this in context, Stena Line only last year bought Norfolkline's Belfast - Birkenhead ferry route. They are a Swedish Company, with a UK branch purchasing another UK concern, itself owned by another Scandinavian company. Stena needed authorisation from both the UK and Irish competition regulators as part of the market served by the route was in the Irish Republic, even though it was technically a domestic UK route.
It can work both ways. It just happens to be that most of the UK-Ireland market is served by Irish airlines.
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Id just like to point out that this is not neccesarily fair. The UK competition authority has juristiction over any market place in the UK, including for travel between the Uk and another nation. As such EI and Ryanair have a significant part of the UK-Ireland airline travel market, so they certainly are within their right to investigate to seek to protect UK consumers.
It can work both ways. It just happens to be that most of the UK-Ireland market is served by Irish airlines.
It can work both ways. It just happens to be that most of the UK-Ireland market is served by Irish airlines.
heads nothing more nothing less.If there was an issue then it was there when the original takeover attempt took place and then was deemed not worthy of investigation by OFT.
If OFT are allowed carry out this then they setting the precedence for any EU country to get involved in any takeover where trading is occuring in that country and trust me they will.
OFT as usual showing what a bunch of idiots they are.
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Before you can investigate a monopoly and/or anti competitive practices you really need evidence of it and also both EI and FR are Irish companies so could the OFT in the UK really have stopped the purchase of a large amount of shares in Ireland. However time has shown to them a case which is why they have investigated.Just because MOL is bullish, foul mouthed and runs a big company does not make him or his business interests outside the law, as FR has found out to its consequence on a number of occasions.
are the Aer Lingus a321s still going to be here for a while ?
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Also used occasionally on AGP in the evening time and the late FAO and also it was on ARN about two weeks ago. The ARN was full I'm told. Good to see it doing so well or was there something special going on in Stockholm maybe in the last few weeks?
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In summer they can be on any route, I have saw theom on ALC, PMI, WAW, MXP, AMS, LPA, ACE, TFS, BUD already this summer. It varies as they sell all flights as A320 and relase extra seats on A321 when they are required on certain routes.
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Aer Lingus Source from RTE news
"Aer Lingus carried 23,000 more passengers last month than in May 2011 according to its latest statistics
The passenger load factor increased by 2.9 points on May 2011 to 76.2%.
The main factor was an increase of 22,000 in passenger numbers for the Aer Lingus regional service. Those are routes such as Waterford to Manchester and Dublin to the Isle Of Man which used to be operated by Aer Arann but which Aer Lingus now runs on foot of an agreement between the two airlines.
Elsewhere, short haul traffic for Aer Lingus, routes into and out of the UK and Europe, fell slightly and long haul traffic - routes outside of Europe - rose but from a low base.
The short haul flown load factor was 73.8%, an increase of 0.9 points on May 2011, with capacity decreasing by 1.6%.
The long haul flown load factor was 81.5%, an increase of 7.4 points on May 2011, with capacity increasing by 0.5%.
Aer Lingus' total flown passenger numbers in May 2012 were 882,000, an increase of 0.1% compared to May 2011.''
The passenger load factor increased by 2.9 points on May 2011 to 76.2%.
The main factor was an increase of 22,000 in passenger numbers for the Aer Lingus regional service. Those are routes such as Waterford to Manchester and Dublin to the Isle Of Man which used to be operated by Aer Arann but which Aer Lingus now runs on foot of an agreement between the two airlines.
Elsewhere, short haul traffic for Aer Lingus, routes into and out of the UK and Europe, fell slightly and long haul traffic - routes outside of Europe - rose but from a low base.
The short haul flown load factor was 73.8%, an increase of 0.9 points on May 2011, with capacity decreasing by 1.6%.
The long haul flown load factor was 81.5%, an increase of 7.4 points on May 2011, with capacity increasing by 0.5%.
Aer Lingus' total flown passenger numbers in May 2012 were 882,000, an increase of 0.1% compared to May 2011.''
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Are Aer Lingus going to operate charter flights this winter from DUB, ORK and LGW and since when have olympic holidays started using seats on EI flights from DUB and ORK?