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Old 14th Apr 2012, 22:24
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Fair enough you could make a passing observation on loads, but I doubt it is it the type of ramp work that tells you what each passenger paid and the profit EI makes on that. A common misconception. Good loads are a start and long it may it continue.
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Old 15th Apr 2012, 05:45
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Fair enough you could make a passing observation on loads, but I doubt it is it the type of ramp work that tells you what each passenger paid and the profit EI makes on that. A common misconception. Good loads are a start and long it may it continue.
Couldn't agree with you more and certainly its going to be tough for EI with the Cork/Barcelona route this year with new competition from FR to Girona as well as Reus but it has been operational since 2004 at the frequency it remains so I don't see it changing anytime soon. And yes I have no access to Loads or Profit of any routes ex Cork unless I'm informed.
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Old 24th Apr 2012, 16:04
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BFS

Why has Aer Lingus not finalised their winter schedule out of Belfast yet ? Heathrow is up but what about the European routes ?
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Old 27th Apr 2012, 00:51
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EI-ETG ntu ?

There seems to have been an ex Iberia A319 that Aer Lingus took delivery of that has gone to Brussels Airlines. Did EI ever take EI-ETG or was it not taken up?

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Old 27th Apr 2012, 05:52
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EI has dropped Gatwick Cork Saturday flights from next month.
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Old 27th Apr 2012, 09:43
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EI are useless when it comes to ork lgw. They removed any alternative except to fly LHR with the removal of the evening flight. So, so many colleagues/friends would now have to take a full day off to get to ork....the worst decision ever EI. No wonder they are dropping the route on Saturday.
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Old 30th Apr 2012, 17:35
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Aer Lingus board to discuss transfer of maintenance operations from Shannon to Dublin - RT News
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Old 30th Apr 2012, 20:14
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EI-ETG was never an Aer Lingus aircraft. The 2 Aer Lingus A319's are -EPS and -EPR
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Old 1st May 2012, 01:15
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Etihad buys stake in Aer Lingus

Etihad has purchased 2.9% of shares in Aer Lingus and both are in discussions about possible code sharing.

Etihad buys stake in Aer Lingus in possible link-up deal - The Irish Times - Tue, May 01, 2012
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Old 1st May 2012, 06:54
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I must admit I don't get the benefit of this for either Etihad or Aer Lingus. Etihad already fly DUB-AUH, so why split the revenue by getting Aer Lingus to fly it on code share? It can't be due to aircraft shortages as they have more scope than EI for new planes. It also references Etihad code sharing on EI flights but as their main business is moving pax thru AUH, I can't see why pax from Asia for example would want to connect in AUH & DUB to get to Europe for example. They already fly to the US also.

The only thing I can see is that they want to capture the Europe - US market but for this to be beneficial they would want more than 3%.

What am I missing or is this just a Pre cursor to something bigger?
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Old 1st May 2012, 07:40
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What you might be missing is that EI has unlimited access to the US, Europe and Canada, EY certainly does not and they have to share traffic rights with Emirates (both being UAE airlines). that was one of the reasons EY took a stake in Air Berlin, it gave them unlimited access to the German market which was previously constrained by bilateral agreements.

I think this could be good for the "DUB Hub" such as it is. Particularly the EI Regional routes to the UK, IOM, etc and onto the US and possibly Canada, should EI ever operate there.
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Old 1st May 2012, 07:43
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It has been specualted that should MAG bid for Stansted they will sell 50% of the group to an outside investor. It has been said one interested parties is the investment arm of the Abu Dhabi government and it was then suggested if they were succesful EY would set up a Manchester base. One could there speculate in order to operate this they may see a shareholding in Aer Lingus (an EU based airline) has benefits?

Probably totally pie in the sky but who knows.
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Old 1st May 2012, 10:35
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dont EIN have 5th freedom rights ex EGCC? If so this is where the action may really start to zone in on.
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Old 1st May 2012, 19:35
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Wonder was it the stake of that great Irish Patriot (where is the total sarcasm button) Denis O'Brien that was bought.
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Old 2nd May 2012, 03:23
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BOURNEMOUTH

LOAD FACTORS ON DUB-BOH? ANY GOOD?
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Old 2nd May 2012, 09:00
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Considering the route only started yesterday i'm guessing its hard to judge unless you are asking about forward bookings.
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Old 2nd May 2012, 14:02
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The Open Skies agreement is EU-US, so any EU airline have the ability to start a route from any EU airport.

I agree that I see EY using EI as extra access to EU airports that they are currently restrained from entering. They already have AB in Central Europe, EI will cover the UK and onward to North America. These options could offer them more access (indirect) to the EU than EK will have. I am pretty confidant that we will see EI operating to Canada within the next 2 years.

While QR and EY are growing slower than EK they are still growing. Those 3 airlines may well be the heavyweights of the next 10 years as existing 'legacy' carriers struggle to adjust to a changing world aviation market.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 09:28
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Aer Lingus narrows first quarter operating loss - RT News
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Old 3rd May 2012, 12:18
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Developments announced

A Strong Q1 Performance from Aer Lingus! They've also confirmed they would open UK domestic routes aswell as increase services to Ireland from London Heathrow if and when slots become available, Management has said they will open new routes to North America and Europe in 2013, Aer Lingus paticularly intrested in the US East Coast and Canada.
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Old 3rd May 2012, 12:38
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Before the rumour mill kicks into full force, it should be pointed out that these LHR plans aren't confirmed. Aer Lingus are currently bidding for the slots that BA were forced to release as part of the conditions set down by the European Commission on them acquiring bmi. But, Virgin Atlantic are bidding for them as well and have plans to develop a new domestic network in the UK. The slots in question are for specific routes, so Aer Lingus would be forced to use the slots for those routes and not to Ireland.

No doubt Etihad's thinking is that if Aer Lingus get the slots, they can code share with them on flights to Abu Dhabi from Heathrow, providing feed for their own hub. So assuming this all plays out, it'll be interesting to see what BA's reaction will be to Aer Lingus. Will they see it as a threat and end the Ireland-UK code share?
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