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Hearing that only 2 A319 will enter service in March and be based at BFS. The other two will arrive late 2012 early 2013 and enter service March 2013.
The second A319 is beig painted in MAD.
The second A319 is beig painted in MAD.
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Either UK taxes are really absurd or I'm missing something, but I've just been planning a business trip/tour for August 2012 and it seems it's cheaper for me to fly Aer Lingus from Lisbon than from MAN to JFK (I'll be going from LIS anyway, but it seems strange...)
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Exactly the reason the Chancellor needs to either seriously reduce the damaging APD or axe it all together,
Irish Departure Tax: €3
UK APD until 31 March 2012;
Band A (0 – 2000 miles) - £24
Band B (2001 – 4000 miles) - £120 (MAN-JFK)
Band C (4001 – 6000 miles) - £150
Band D (over 6000 miles) - £170
UK APD From 1 April 2012;
Band A (0 – 2000 miles) - £26
Band B (2001 – 4000 miles) - £130 (MAN-JFK)
Band C (4001 – 6000 miles) - £162
Band D (over 6000 miles) - £184
Most airlines try to reduce the APD by absorbing some of the cost, example BA and Virgin.
Irish Departure Tax: €3
UK APD until 31 March 2012;
Band A (0 – 2000 miles) - £24
Band B (2001 – 4000 miles) - £120 (MAN-JFK)
Band C (4001 – 6000 miles) - £150
Band D (over 6000 miles) - £170
UK APD From 1 April 2012;
Band A (0 – 2000 miles) - £26
Band B (2001 – 4000 miles) - £130 (MAN-JFK)
Band C (4001 – 6000 miles) - £162
Band D (over 6000 miles) - £184
Most airlines try to reduce the APD by absorbing some of the cost, example BA and Virgin.
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Surely it would be incredibly stupid to cut the tax just before the biggest sporting event of a lifetime about to happen in East London? It's a captive market. Those coming to the Olympics will have to pay it to get home. Those Brits thinking of getting away for a while and spending their money elsewhere may think twice. Also, Brits heading off to Euro 2012 should be a nice little APD earner.
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Surely it would be incredibly stupid to cut the tax just before the biggest sporting event of a lifetime about to happen in East London? It's a captive market. Those coming to the Olympics will have to pay it to get home. Those Brits thinking of getting away for a while and spending their money elsewhere may think twice. Also, Brits heading off to Euro 2012 should be a nice little APD earner.
Good point, but what Virgin, easyJet, IAG, Ryanair and others have been saying is outside of inbound tourism for the Olympics, inbound tourism is being destroyed in the UK, i really do think the tax needs to be reduced but at the end of the day who can see the Chancellor wanting to scrap billions in revenues.
Problem will be that the normal tourists who come anyway during the summer will stay away because
1.) cost of accommodation
2.) feeling that it will be too crowded etc etc
Sadly aviation taxes are a reality and Govts see them as if you can afford to fly you can afford to pay.
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Why do Aer Lingus sell flights that are scheduled to be A321 as A320. Every single A321 flight has only 174 seats on sale and the remaining 38 blocked out.
And what routes are they planned to operate next summer.
And what routes are they planned to operate next summer.
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Most lightly if one goes tech its much easier to be able to transfer all passengers to an A320. If there is high demand they release the last number of seats.
For this summer they will operate: London LHR, Warsaw, Budapest, Palma, Nice, Alicante, Brussels possibly a few others.
For this summer they will operate: London LHR, Warsaw, Budapest, Palma, Nice, Alicante, Brussels possibly a few others.
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I'd imagine it allows them to optimise revenue. They look at which flights are attracting the most bookings and then closer to the date of departure they allocate the A321s to the lines of flying (maybe even different on different days of the week or different months) which look as though they'll need the extra seats.
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A few years back I flew LIN-DUB, when we booked it was scheduled as an A320, it later changes to an A321, just for that day only. There was a large group of Italian teenagers on the flight, presumably learning english for the summer. As it happens the A321 developed a tech problem and we flew back to DUB on a chartered Titan 757, but that is beside the point!
By leaving the A320 seat map they have optimum flexibility. You might also notice that on A321 scheduled flights row 12 and 13 tend to be unavailable for seat selection (A320 exit rows) and on A320 flights 9A, 9F and 22A, 22F also tend to be unavailable (non existent on A321 due to location of the exit doors), again this allows EI optimum flexibility to swap aircraft around as loads dictate without messing up seat assignments.
By leaving the A320 seat map they have optimum flexibility. You might also notice that on A321 scheduled flights row 12 and 13 tend to be unavailable for seat selection (A320 exit rows) and on A320 flights 9A, 9F and 22A, 22F also tend to be unavailable (non existent on A321 due to location of the exit doors), again this allows EI optimum flexibility to swap aircraft around as loads dictate without messing up seat assignments.
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APD Rates
Off topic but as its mentioned above, those APD rates are for 'Standard rate', i.e. anything above Economy / Y class.
The Y class APD rates are:
Band A 0–2,000 miles* £12 / £13
Band B 2,001–4,000 miles £60 / £65
Band C 4,001–6,000 miles £75 / £81
Band D over 6,000 miles £85 / £92
second figure is rate from 01 Apr 2012.
And yes I agree, its yet another rip-off tax which is killing long-haul from the UK. Just look at the reduction in I.T. charter flying and the amount of Cruise ships that now start their journeys ex UK as the Cruise companies wont pay the extra APD on the long-haul charters they need to get the pax there.
The Y class APD rates are:
Band A 0–2,000 miles* £12 / £13
Band B 2,001–4,000 miles £60 / £65
Band C 4,001–6,000 miles £75 / £81
Band D over 6,000 miles £85 / £92
second figure is rate from 01 Apr 2012.
And yes I agree, its yet another rip-off tax which is killing long-haul from the UK. Just look at the reduction in I.T. charter flying and the amount of Cruise ships that now start their journeys ex UK as the Cruise companies wont pay the extra APD on the long-haul charters they need to get the pax there.
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The purchase of a major stake in Irish carrier Aer Lingus will be discussed between Etihad's Chief Executive Officer James Hogan and Ireland's Minister of Transport when the two meet before Monday, Gulf News has learned.
The meeting, likely to be held tomorrow, will try to resume talks which followed initial discussions in September.
The meeting, likely to be held tomorrow, will try to resume talks which followed initial discussions in September.
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Cabin Crew - Dublin Base - Aer Lingus
Its being a while since EI have needed to hire CC..Great to see the airline is doing well.
Its being a while since EI have needed to hire CC..Great to see the airline is doing well.
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December passengers up 13%.
Short Haul - 638,000 up 11.5%
Long Haul - 64,000 down 5%
EI Regional - up 13%
LF down 6.2% to 69.4
Numbers are up slight without out the affects of snow and there LF was affected because of the snow.
2011 total passengers up 0.5% to 9.76 million with a LF of 76.4%
Short Haul - 638,000 up 11.5%
Long Haul - 64,000 down 5%
EI Regional - up 13%
LF down 6.2% to 69.4
Numbers are up slight without out the affects of snow and there LF was affected because of the snow.
2011 total passengers up 0.5% to 9.76 million with a LF of 76.4%
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With only 3 A321 insevice 90% of routes are operated by A320 so easier to have this as the standard seat map. As Jamie2K/Cyrano pointed out EI keep their A321 as extra capacity where needed. All planing is A320 as default, it then gets tweaked to an A321 closer to the operation. They may be initially scheduled on certain routes but EI have no problem switching them during the week/day as needed.
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I dont know is it a wind up but I heard a rumour that Aer Arran have sent a ATR42 to Shannon for painting into Aer Lingus regional colours. Looking a airfleets.net the YOUNGEST 42 they operate is 20.5 years old. I have been on them before going to Sligo and all I can say is wow. Seats broken, toilet was rank, smelling an lets say an odour was coming from it which you could get half way up its small cabin. I do not think it had been wash properly in about 10 years. The cabin itself with its colour scheme would not be out of place in 1970's Kazakhstan livingroom. Can Aer Arran just do this as part of their agreement or has Aer lingus let them do this. Last time I saw one in Dublin it looked fit for retirement never mind going into service for the national carrier. What routes will these 42's do? Its quiet funny that 10 years after Aer lingus commuter retired its Fokker 50 fleet it has been replaced with a small older aircraft. At least the cabin crew are great at Arran there always smiling I guess thats all they can do.