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Old 15th Nov 2013, 16:22
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Cyrano - I hope you'll forgive my tweaking your figures slightly

Amsterdam, assuming 31 days ant not 4 weeks - 54 round trips = 5,400 seats, so load factor = 21%

For November, Paris seems to have been reduced to 4 round trips per week, and Milan goes down to 3 round trips per week
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Yeh think it was a little more than a 4 week month but still even those loads you have shown are terrible, can't see darwin lasting much longer at Cambridge if it continues like this
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As I have mentioned in another thread, Darwin has filed for slots at Dusseldorf, with one of the daily flights given as CBG-DUS. From the slot filings, it appears that it has to do with a link up with airberlin (which would also fit in with the Etihad stories as EY literally keeps airberlin afloat with direct and indirect cash injections).
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Well, as expected, Etihad has taken a 33% stake in Darwin and will rebrand it Etihad Regional:
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Interesting times for CBG!
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A remarkable development. However I am still not convinced of the desirability of 2 stop itineraries to access the wider Etihad network.
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Old 17th Nov 2013, 16:06
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Not sure what the point of CBG - DUS for Ethihad Regional is. If it is about feeding AUH flights, Etihad also serves AMS, CDG and MXP.
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Not advertising, but...

Using the existing services out of Cambridge as feeders, there are some seriously good prices to be found to long-haul destinations: we have booked to fly out to Japan, with a very civilised start from Cambridge, for a very competitive price. Dunno if the checked-in luggage can be checked through, but it beats slogging over to LHR/LGW if you are local!

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Old 18th Nov 2013, 07:36
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Yes, luggage will be checked through.
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Old 18th Nov 2013, 08:19
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Originally Posted by virginblue
Not sure what the point of CBG - DUS for Ethihad Regional is. If it is about feeding AUH flights, Etihad also serves AMS, CDG and MXP.
It's more likely to be about feeding the Air Berlin hub at DUS, since AB is part of the Etihad "foster family" too.
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Old 18th Nov 2013, 08:39
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I concur with papabravowhisky, I'm not truly local to CBG but it takes me no longer to get there than it does LHR. Spending my Christmas break in Malaysia, just over £500 each. It was some saving against fares from LHR and the total journey time with 2 changes wasn't too dissimilar to 1 stop from LHR.
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Old 18th Nov 2013, 09:16
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CBG-DUS v.v. is one daily flight, arriving into DUS at 0810 am, doing a LCY rotation and returning to CBG on a 2:40 pm departure.

The morning arrival connects with the 10:40 am morning departure by EY to AUH, the afternoon departure with the 1:00 pm arrival from AUH opb AB and chde-shared by EY.

For airberlin's contiental network, the flights are ill-timed. Between 09:30-12am, there are - at least during the winter timetable, just 8 departures - two domestic flights, one two Rome and the rest to Turkey and Spain aimed at IT/leisure traffic.
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Old 18th Nov 2013, 21:18
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I really want these flights to work as flying from Cambridge is a dream. I was also on the inaugural AMS flight and it was the most civilised of my life. My alarm went off after I'd have arrived at Stansted, and I've never cycled to an airport before.

I'm massively surprised by seeing more flights rather than less, though. I can't imagine why you'd fly to Paris when Eurostar is so easy (ok, so you have to walk a few hundred yards from Kings Cross to St P, but on the other hand it takes you to not Charles de Gaulle).

It can't work for short haul because I doubt there's a destination that attracts enough pax from CBG in its own right, and because if you have to change but there is a direct flight from STN (and lets face it, probably there is) then suddenly it's less hassle to go to STN.

That leaves either competing against LCCs using an S200 flying from an empty airport on cost (not likely) or chasing passengers changing onto long haul at an airport that might also attract a decent number of passengers itself is what's left. So that's Amsterdam covered...

... leaving me wondering what's with all the other places they're trying to fly to as well?

But of course I never said any of that, what I'd actually encourage them to do is start flights from CBG to RIX to connect with the Air Baltic network... just for me :-)
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 16:54
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Flew out of CBG this week.
Bought ticket 2h15m before flight - paid only 20% more than the lowest entry-level fare. Seems worryingly close effectively to a flat fare policy. Why book in advance and pay for a flexible ticket, when you can book the same day as you fly but pay little more than an entry level fare ?

Told off for arriving at checkin 25 mins before a flight with just 8 passengers and no other passenger flights for hours afterwards. 40 min checkin is essential it seems. You can impose all the procedures you like but there needs to be a reason behind them.

When another passenger at boarding asked handling agent about small number of paying pax, enquirer was told that because they-who-must-not-be-named are involved, it must all be fine and the future is rosy.

Lounge at airport and flight itself along with service were top notch, but think somebody in management has some work to do...

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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 17:20
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8 pax on a 50 seat aircraft is terrible whatever way you look at it they won't be making money on it
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 21:05
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Grrr

Etihad Regional! I wonder when the 'Gulf bubble' will burst. The airline industry is cyclical and it will happen, I guess when their oil runs out. Spend it whilst you have it!
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Old 23rd Nov 2013, 23:53
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I think the idea is to invest in airlines and airports, as a hub to and from the west and the east, as one form of insurance and income for when the oil runs out. They don't seem to be making a bad job of it at the moment. (Sorry, nothing to do with Cambridge).
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Old 11th Dec 2013, 08:00
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Any updated figures available on the routes from Cambridge?
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Old 11th Dec 2013, 08:15
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CAA stats should be out early next week

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Old 11th Dec 2013, 19:13
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malpensa service cancelled from the 30th march 14 and AMS reduced to daily at the same time.
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Old 11th Dec 2013, 19:34
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with the loads on these services this is no surprise, and they may all go in the future if poor loads continue
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