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Old 15th Feb 2011, 19:44
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WTF ? CAA provisional stats show MME's terminal passenger numbers up 44% and air transport movements up 22% in January 2011 compared to January 2010

Passenger numbers, counting both arriving and departing, for Jan-2011 (Jan-2010 in brackets)
Aberdeen.............2,338.(2,145)...January 2009 had 2,453
Southampton...........581...(184)...Janaury 2009 had 0
Alicante...............1,495.(1,429)...January 2009 had 1,553
Amsterdam...........7,971.(6,530)...January 2009 had 7,988
Bridgetown.................0...(188)...Janaury 2009 had 0
Grenoble.................459...(867)...Janaury 2009 had 1,304
Sharm El Sheikh.....1,658......(0)...Janaury 2009 had 0
Tenerife................1,814.....(0)...Janaury 2009 had 429

Total...................16,316 (11,343)
Note my total doesn't quite match the CAA total passenger numbers, and that I've omitted routes which were dropped between Jan 2009 and Jan 2010 without resuming - e.g. Heathrow and Dublin. I would also imagine that for all routes apart from Aberdeen, Amsterdam and Southampton, the £6 charge on departing passengers hasn't yet shown its full impact, as many charter passengers will have booked before 15 November 2010 and thus potentially been able to show paperwork to avoid the charge.

<sits ready to eat some humble pie from MME's supporters>

How did MME manage that one ?
Am absolutely gobsmacked

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Old 15th Feb 2011, 20:10
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Don't be gobsmacked.

The airport spent the busiest part of last January (i.e. the first part) shut due to snow and was slower to re-open than the other airports, hence the bounce this year.
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Old 15th Feb 2011, 20:15
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Yep - combination of the negative weather effect for Jan 2010 and the positive effect of the new TOM routes this winter (Sharm El Sheikh and Tenerife)
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Old 15th Feb 2011, 20:19
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Also the TOM routes to Sharm El Sheikh and Tenerife fly at the weekend and there were 5 weekends in January 2011.
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Old 1st Mar 2011, 08:05
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Is there anyone there?

A distinct lack of information flow on this thread recently? 15th february last post.

Take it the airport is still open and coining in the revenue from recent incentives and route announcements?

Or have we all just faded away like a once great airport.....
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 06:47
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I worked at MME from time to time for British Midland. Loved the airport... even loved staying at the George Hotel ( think that was the name ).
Shame it seems to be a quiet base now. Have not been there in over 10 years. I think a flight between BHD ( my local ) and MME could be viable option with Baby or Flybe.
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 19:07
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Terminal closed off?

hi looks like half the terminal boarded/closed off/lights out any idea what is happening? cant beleive its an extension?
also the south of the airfield has been recently fenced off..who does that belong to? is it the council/peel or vas?

me thinks its about time we had a statement from peel/vas..what is going on?
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 19:15
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If it's anything like what they've done at DSA, then it'll just be to save on heating and lighting bills. Makes sense to me, because, at DSA at least, the terminal is designed for 5 million pax with less than a million using it, so closing half of it off should save a fair bit of money! Apart from the money, most businesses seem to want to do their bit for the environment nowadays, so that could be a factor as well.
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 19:56
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the terminal is designed for 5 million pax with less than a million using it
Your too generous with that. Actually it is less than a quarter of a million or to be precise 224,673 in 2010.
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 22:02
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The South side was fenced off about two years ago and was planned to be a buisness park before the downturn. The plans were all drawn up and approved the farmer got paid a decent sum for the land between the A67 and the fenced off area for an access road.

Terminal wise there was a plan for a lo cost side and a buisness side of the terminal, perhaps someone knows who and where too.

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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 00:25
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Confuse DSA and MME

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Makes sense to me, because, at DSA at least, the terminal is designed for 5 million pax with less than a million using it, so closing half of it off should save a fair bit of money!

There are just under a million using DSA, not c.224 000. If traffic picks up they can open the other half at DSA and I suppose it lets them film - sorry name gone - that TV programme with Little Britain stars in closed bit.
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 10:42
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Yep, I meant DSA, as I said in my original post - "at DSA at least, the terminal is designed for 5 million pax... "

Just to highlight that the reasons MME has been closed off are probably for the same as at DSA.
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Old 3rd Mar 2011, 11:08
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Sorry, I overlooked the fact you were refering to DSA.
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 19:59
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Easy Jet to DTV ?

lot of talk on the Easy pprune web page of Easy and its declining presence in the NE.
DSA/LBA not at the races.

Is it remotely possible that VAS/Peel have something upp their sleeve and that the decline at ncl might mean them giving DTV a couple of aircraft base? Better spread of passengers as edinburgh expanding,dtv further south than ncl?
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 22:38
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No.

Easy seem to be concentrating on the continent, Gatwick and Manchester. Unfortunately that means bases like Newcastle have to suffer as Stelios has thrown his toys out of the cot regarding expansion. That said the Geordies want bucket and spade routes with sun hence the reason that Alicante and Malaga do so well so easy will not pull these routes unless somthing seriously profitable comes along.

So ultimately ezy will not be big in the the NE but will keep a small presence on profitable routes. (much to my dismay as there is only so often that you can fly to Malaga without getting déjà vous).
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Old 6th Mar 2011, 23:51
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Peel/VAS could no doubt put together a second-to-none deal for easyJet to operate from all three of their airports, but even if easyJet were interested, they don't operate to airports outside of controlled airspace which rules out DTV.

However, I understand there are constant efforts to link DTV with an airway to rectify this situation but always to no avail.
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 00:59
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If East Midlands and Doncaster were not big enough markets for easyJet why would an airport with a much smaller market and a £6 departure charge be of any interest?
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 07:06
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even if easyJet were interested, they don't operate to airports outside of controlled airspace which rules out DTV
No it doesn't. DTV has had controlled airspace for years. And in any case Easyjet does fly to airports with no CAS e.g. Inverness.

There is one reason why Easyjet don't fly to DTV. It's the same reason all the other airlines don't fly there.

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Old 7th Mar 2011, 13:34
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Ref. easyjet
For absolute clarity Easyjet have no interest whatsoever of operating into DTV at any level. Indeed their commitment to the NE as a whole is on a downwards slide. Up the road there are feelings amongst many of thosed based crew members that sooner or later they will have to "upsticks & move on.
Flyit Pointit Sortit you have hit the nail precisely, although it's not good news for the NE, & indeed "the continent, Gatwick and Manchester" is precisely all that is on offer to displaced crew members.

On another tack it is actually completely illogical for DTVAirport to suggest :-
Peel/VAS could no doubt put together a second-to-none deal for easyJet to operate from all three of their airports
The response to this is a no brainer that in a sellers (EZY) market then any deal would be much more attractive to any airline IF DTV were ommitted from a Peel/VAS proposal!
It doesn't make sense that any group of airports could make a more profitable deal by requesing the airline to bolt on DTV into the equation. What Peel/VAS need to concentrate on is looking after their own EZY interest at LPL from its big boy neighbour (MAN)!
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Old 7th Mar 2011, 14:37
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It is true that Easy try to avoid airports outside controlled airspace, and although DTVA does have controlled airspace you still have to leave the safety of this airspace to get to the airway.
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