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I really wish these guys would take over the sun routes from SOU. They would be the perfect candidates with the potential to throw in some underserved European routes. Chance of them giving flybe a good kick in the behind too
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I was looking at the BACF flights listed on Wikipedia when I came across the fact that the LCY-HAM and LCY-BLL flights are in fact operated by Sun Air. I know they are considered a franchisee and there's a difference with for instance the Saab 2000 flights where BACF is wet leasing from Eastern.
But what's not clear to me is who's calling the shots in this case? Was it BA(CF) who decided to fly to HAM and BLL and contracted Sun Air? Or would a franchisee like Sun Air decide itself to open new routes? And how would BA in such a setup make sure they fit in the existing strategy for LCY?
But what's not clear to me is who's calling the shots in this case? Was it BA(CF) who decided to fly to HAM and BLL and contracted Sun Air? Or would a franchisee like Sun Air decide itself to open new routes? And how would BA in such a setup make sure they fit in the existing strategy for LCY?
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The BLL and HAM routes are 100% SunAir's own choice and own risk.
They would technically have to ask BA (mainline, with whom they hold the franchise) for approval to operate the routes under said franchise - in turn no doubt BA would check with CityFlyer if this was likely to cause any issues...
Since CityFlyer never showed any interest in these routes themselves (indeed BA mainline going on LHR-BLL will have been a kick in the teeth for SunAir) and since they seem keen to lock up as many peak LCY slots as possible under BA-branded operations, I'd have said they'd have positively welcomed SunAir coming to do these routes..
The BLL and HAM routes are 100% SunAir's own choice and own risk.
They would technically have to ask BA (mainline, with whom they hold the franchise) for approval to operate the routes under said franchise - in turn no doubt BA would check with CityFlyer if this was likely to cause any issues...
Since CityFlyer never showed any interest in these routes themselves (indeed BA mainline going on LHR-BLL will have been a kick in the teeth for SunAir) and since they seem keen to lock up as many peak LCY slots as possible under BA-branded operations, I'd have said they'd have positively welcomed SunAir coming to do these routes..
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BACF working with Eastern ?
Rumour has it that BACF are to provide Operator Conversion Courses to Eastern on the Embraer170 series. That in parallel with training their own crews to maintain pilot numbers. One embraer sim in the UK and a skeleton training department, how is that going to work ? Are the crew numbers at BACF OK ?
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I presume this training would be because Eastern are rumoured to acquiring 2 E170s of their own. I can see benefit to BACF as this would be an additional income stream.
It could also be of benefit to Cityflyer as these Eastern aircraft could be called upon for short term leases to cover maintenance etc given that the number of 146/RJ aircraft available for short term cover is very limited.
It could also be of benefit to Cityflyer as these Eastern aircraft could be called upon for short term leases to cover maintenance etc given that the number of 146/RJ aircraft available for short term cover is very limited.
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There isn't a London City Airport thread that I can see, so I'll ask this question here.
If you had the choice of one or the other, which would be more dramatic as a spectacle for a passenger - flying out of or flying in to LCY?
Thanks.
If you had the choice of one or the other, which would be more dramatic as a spectacle for a passenger - flying out of or flying in to LCY?
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I would say that it depends on the weather and the runway in use. For arrivals a clear day and an approach from the west is great (look out for drones over the house of parliament (see other thread!), on take off in the opposite direction in low visibility it would be cool to emerge and see the top half of Canary Wharf etc sitting proud of the fog
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BA threatens to pull out of LCY?
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Making use of the spare capacity when London City is closed at the weekend. Cityflyer are in the process of increasing their fleet by two additional airframes. I would have thought that this type of service would have been ideal from Southend?
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Hardly "taking the fight to the lo-co airlines"!! One flight a week to each destination. Buster is correct...fillers to use the aircraft when LCY is shut and there is no business traffic. I doubt Ryanair are starting to panic just yet 
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BA threatens to pull out of LCY?
British Airways owner IAG threatens to pull out of London City Airport if new owner ups fees | Business | London Evening Standard
British Airways owner IAG threatens to pull out of London City Airport if new owner ups fees | Business | London Evening Standard
A warning shot to London City?
Yawn.
Heard it all before: as mentioned in the article, IAG were going to quit Heathrow if expansion was allowed.
What, give up all those premium shorthaul pax at LCY? Don't think so!
It's bull: IAG has nowhere else to go, IAG knows it, Heathrow airport knows it, London airport knows it, everyone knows it.