Air Wisconsin Airman Trainee
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Air Wisconsin Airman Trainee
I just picked up a brochure at a flight school.
I read it five times, and still don't understand what it is.
Air Wisconsin has a Airman Trainee program, that they say is not an internship.
The requirements are:
19 years old.
Comm/Inst/Multi.
1st class medical.
500 hours, unless from a partner school or university.
No DUI within last 10 years. (Oh good, because my last DUI was when I was 8)
What you have to do is.
Update your flight time every month.
Talk to them once a month about your progress.
Complete a distance learning module.
For that you get.
Bi-monthly paychecks.
Travel privileges with American Airlines.
401K with company match.
Bonus payouts.
Free ATP with type rating.
So, if I had 500 hours and was working toward my 1500 hours doing Pt135 and pt 141 and pt 91 flying.
They would pay me, to do a CRJ systems and a AOM/FOM training module once a month?
Sounds like you could milk that gravy train for several years.
What's the catch?
I read it five times, and still don't understand what it is.
Air Wisconsin has a Airman Trainee program, that they say is not an internship.
The requirements are:
19 years old.
Comm/Inst/Multi.
1st class medical.
500 hours, unless from a partner school or university.
No DUI within last 10 years. (Oh good, because my last DUI was when I was 8)
What you have to do is.
Update your flight time every month.
Talk to them once a month about your progress.
Complete a distance learning module.
For that you get.
Bi-monthly paychecks.
Travel privileges with American Airlines.
401K with company match.
Bonus payouts.
Free ATP with type rating.
So, if I had 500 hours and was working toward my 1500 hours doing Pt135 and pt 141 and pt 91 flying.
They would pay me, to do a CRJ systems and a AOM/FOM training module once a month?
Sounds like you could milk that gravy train for several years.
What's the catch?
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The catch is that you would be committed to working for Air Wisconsin once you get your 1500 hours. They need pilots desperately and they are losing them left and right.
Make sure you do your research. Most people want to go to a regional that is growing and has quick upgrade times. This is not the case for Air wisconsin and the moment. In fact, they do not have any secured flying beyond February 2018 so who knows if the company will even exist after then. Many pilots at the company are leaving due to lack of communication about the future of the company.
Air Wisconsin was once the most desired regional due to their pay and contract.
Make sure you do your research. Most people want to go to a regional that is growing and has quick upgrade times. This is not the case for Air wisconsin and the moment. In fact, they do not have any secured flying beyond February 2018 so who knows if the company will even exist after then. Many pilots at the company are leaving due to lack of communication about the future of the company.
Air Wisconsin was once the most desired regional due to their pay and contract.
Last edited by zondaracer; 9th February 2017 at 03:41.
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I remember when Air Wisconsin had the BAE 146s.
Now I see thier planes are fire bombers in Nevada.
But exactly how could they make you work for them?
Nothing is legally binding.
Training contracts don't hold up in court.
I was just looking at 'milking it', whilst doing a degree on-line and flying Pt135 charters.
If worst came to worst, just go get a ATP and a type rating and leave like everybody else.
I'm just the evil genius father, who is currupting my children future.
Recently I was jumpseating with both Express Jets and Republic.
None of their pilots believe they will be in business next year.
Now I see thier planes are fire bombers in Nevada.
But exactly how could they make you work for them?
Nothing is legally binding.
Training contracts don't hold up in court.
I was just looking at 'milking it', whilst doing a degree on-line and flying Pt135 charters.
If worst came to worst, just go get a ATP and a type rating and leave like everybody else.
I'm just the evil genius father, who is currupting my children future.
Recently I was jumpseating with both Express Jets and Republic.
None of their pilots believe they will be in business next year.
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Looks like the AW people got a 5 year reprieve from extinction. This may help their recruiting effort:
Air Wisconsin Signs 5 Year CPA With United.
5 year CPA
65 CRJ-200's
Feb 2018 - Feb 2023
Hub's at ORD and IAD
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Dear Fellow Employees,
I am very pleased to announce that yesterday Air Wisconsin and United Airlines executed an exclusive five-year Capacity Purchase Agreement to operate up to 65 CRJ 200 aircraft through February of 2023, with a potential two-year extension. The aircraft will be inducted into United’s network commencing no later than February 2018. This exciting news creates a long term future for our company and provides security and opportunity for our employees as we expand and place our full fleet into service with United.
As many of you may know, for over 20 years through 2006, Air Wisconsin provided regional airline and ground handling services to United Airlines. Many of our current pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, dispatchers and management employees were part of the team providing those services. We are very proud to be re-establishing our partnership with United and once again serving as a United Express carrier as part of United’s global network. We look forward to providing United’s customers with the safe, reliable and outstanding customer service that is the hallmark of both Air Wisconsin and United Airlines.
I am attaching a letter from Scott Kirby, President of United Airlines, welcoming us back to the United family and outlining the instrumental role of 50-seat aircraft in strengthening United’s network. United is keenly focused on connectivity within its system, and with competitive economics Air Wisconsin is poised to play an important role in that strategy.
We expect our geographic footprint within the United Express network will include hubs in Chicago (ORD) and Washington Dulles (IAD). We are working with United to minimize disruption to our employees and to retain as much of our existing physical infrastructure as possible - including our Milwaukee (MKE), Norfolk (ORF) and Columbia (CAE) maintenance facilities.
Importantly, Air Wisconsin pilots will become eligible to enroll in the United Airlines Career Pathway Program (CPP) which provides qualifying pilots with the opportunity to become pilots for United mainline. As we expand our service for United, our aggressive hiring plans will create fast upgrades for First Officers and the CPP program creates a direct professional pathway into United mainline for all eligible pilots. Our recently announced new hire/first year pay structure and our generous retention payments establishes Air Wisconsin as a premier regional airline for pilots and reflects United’s and our commitment to the long term future and growth of Air Wisconsin.
We will keep you informed and updated as we develop and finalize our plans to transition from our partnership with American into our new partnership with United. Air Wisconsin has had a great relationship over the past 12 years with US Airways/American – and I speak for all of us when I say that it has been a privilege to serve them. I know I can count on all of you in providing outstanding service for American as we complete the remaining term of our flying with them.
I personally want to thank each and every one of you for your loyalty and dedication to Air Wisconsin. I know that the last several months have not been easy for you in the absence of knowledge regarding our company’s future and the anxiety this may have created for you and your families. I along with our leadership team deeply appreciate your professionalism and commitment to proudly delivering an outstanding product each and every day. As we move forward in our new relationship with United Airlines, we will keep you updated on a regular basis and we look forward to working together with you as we embark on this exciting new phase in Air Wisconsin’s future. I am thrilled by the opportunity to announce a new chapter in Air Wisconsin’s proud history! Let’s go!
Sincerely,
Christine
Christine R. Deister
President and Chief Executive Officer
Air Wisconsin Signs 5 Year CPA With United.
5 year CPA
65 CRJ-200's
Feb 2018 - Feb 2023
Hub's at ORD and IAD
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dear Fellow Employees,
I am very pleased to announce that yesterday Air Wisconsin and United Airlines executed an exclusive five-year Capacity Purchase Agreement to operate up to 65 CRJ 200 aircraft through February of 2023, with a potential two-year extension. The aircraft will be inducted into United’s network commencing no later than February 2018. This exciting news creates a long term future for our company and provides security and opportunity for our employees as we expand and place our full fleet into service with United.
As many of you may know, for over 20 years through 2006, Air Wisconsin provided regional airline and ground handling services to United Airlines. Many of our current pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, dispatchers and management employees were part of the team providing those services. We are very proud to be re-establishing our partnership with United and once again serving as a United Express carrier as part of United’s global network. We look forward to providing United’s customers with the safe, reliable and outstanding customer service that is the hallmark of both Air Wisconsin and United Airlines.
I am attaching a letter from Scott Kirby, President of United Airlines, welcoming us back to the United family and outlining the instrumental role of 50-seat aircraft in strengthening United’s network. United is keenly focused on connectivity within its system, and with competitive economics Air Wisconsin is poised to play an important role in that strategy.
We expect our geographic footprint within the United Express network will include hubs in Chicago (ORD) and Washington Dulles (IAD). We are working with United to minimize disruption to our employees and to retain as much of our existing physical infrastructure as possible - including our Milwaukee (MKE), Norfolk (ORF) and Columbia (CAE) maintenance facilities.
Importantly, Air Wisconsin pilots will become eligible to enroll in the United Airlines Career Pathway Program (CPP) which provides qualifying pilots with the opportunity to become pilots for United mainline. As we expand our service for United, our aggressive hiring plans will create fast upgrades for First Officers and the CPP program creates a direct professional pathway into United mainline for all eligible pilots. Our recently announced new hire/first year pay structure and our generous retention payments establishes Air Wisconsin as a premier regional airline for pilots and reflects United’s and our commitment to the long term future and growth of Air Wisconsin.
We will keep you informed and updated as we develop and finalize our plans to transition from our partnership with American into our new partnership with United. Air Wisconsin has had a great relationship over the past 12 years with US Airways/American – and I speak for all of us when I say that it has been a privilege to serve them. I know I can count on all of you in providing outstanding service for American as we complete the remaining term of our flying with them.
I personally want to thank each and every one of you for your loyalty and dedication to Air Wisconsin. I know that the last several months have not been easy for you in the absence of knowledge regarding our company’s future and the anxiety this may have created for you and your families. I along with our leadership team deeply appreciate your professionalism and commitment to proudly delivering an outstanding product each and every day. As we move forward in our new relationship with United Airlines, we will keep you updated on a regular basis and we look forward to working together with you as we embark on this exciting new phase in Air Wisconsin’s future. I am thrilled by the opportunity to announce a new chapter in Air Wisconsin’s proud history! Let’s go!
Sincerely,
Christine
Christine R. Deister
President and Chief Executive Officer
