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“And I think the real key is … when you do your interview with us when you’re a junior in college, you have done your last United interview. Your first and only United interview.”
This can't hurt Metro State's recruiting into the av program.
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It may be that part of that program whcih isn't mentioned is that the "career path program" includes a period of flight instruction in the university's flight school whcih would make up the difference between Comm. minimums and ATP minimums. Just speculation on my part though.
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Bold. Unless I missed it, they don't explain how they get from fresh CPL to ATP mins to join the affiliated regionals. I don't see that school on the list for r-ATP mins:
“And I think the real key is … when you do your interview with us when you’re a junior in college, you have done your last United interview. Your first and only United interview.”
This can't hurt Metro State's recruiting into the av program.
“And I think the real key is … when you do your interview with us when you’re a junior in college, you have done your last United interview. Your first and only United interview.”
This can't hurt Metro State's recruiting into the av program.
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It may be that part of that program whcih isn't mentioned is that the "career path program" includes a period of flight instruction in the university's flight school whcih would make up the difference between Comm. minimums and ATP minimums. Just speculation on my part though.
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That's a variation on a theme. So, the university is just all academics.
That UAL interview thing will put 'em on the map. I'd like to see the fine print on that deal.
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I guess you'd have to see the fine print on this deal. I can't tell from the article precisely what happens beyond interviewing with UAL as a junior, finding one's own way to 1500 hours and then to an affiliated regional.
These three paragraphs with bolded statements have the ring of a flow but with undefined criteria beyond the regional level. UAL seems to be bypassing the regional interview process but after that, I can't tell what's what. "Your first and only United interview" has a certain implied definition to it:
“The ‘career path program,’ which is being unveiled Tuesday, will create a means for flight officer students at Metro to interview with United as undergraduates, and — if accepted — follow a defined track to one of United’s regional partner airlines.”
“After meeting flight time requirements there, participants can move on to waiting jobs in United cockpits, all within five or seven years of graduation. “
“And I think the real key is … when you do your interview with us when you’re a junior in college, you have done your last United interview. Your first and only United interview.”
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havick,
I guess you'd have to see the fine print on this deal. I can't tell from the article precisely what happens beyond interviewing with UAL as a junior, finding one's own way to 1500 hours and then to an affiliated regional.
These three paragraphs with bolded statements have the ring of a flow but with undefined criteria beyond the regional level. UAL seems to be bypassing the regional interview process but after that, I can't tell what's what. "Your first and only United interview" has a certain implied definition to it:
“The ‘career path program,’ which is being unveiled Tuesday, will create a means for flight officer students at Metro to interview with United as undergraduates, and — if accepted — follow a defined track to one of United’s regional partner airlines.”
“After meeting flight time requirements there, participants can move on to waiting jobs in United cockpits, all within five or seven years of graduation. “
“And I think the real key is … when you do your interview with us when you’re a junior in college, you have done your last United interview. Your first and only United interview.”
I guess you'd have to see the fine print on this deal. I can't tell from the article precisely what happens beyond interviewing with UAL as a junior, finding one's own way to 1500 hours and then to an affiliated regional.
These three paragraphs with bolded statements have the ring of a flow but with undefined criteria beyond the regional level. UAL seems to be bypassing the regional interview process but after that, I can't tell what's what. "Your first and only United interview" has a certain implied definition to it:
“The ‘career path program,’ which is being unveiled Tuesday, will create a means for flight officer students at Metro to interview with United as undergraduates, and — if accepted — follow a defined track to one of United’s regional partner airlines.”
“After meeting flight time requirements there, participants can move on to waiting jobs in United cockpits, all within five or seven years of graduation. “
“And I think the real key is … when you do your interview with us when you’re a junior in college, you have done your last United interview. Your first and only United interview.”
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All of these schemes exist as a way to draw pilots to the major Airline's regional feeders with with a carrot. Delta, United, etc. are not seriously worried about not having qualified applicants, They are, however, concerned about their feeders' ability to staff their airplanes with cheap labor. United and Delta's business model is absolutely dependent on a feeder network operated at rock bottom prices. This is why you have seen in the last 30 years, more and more "mainline" flying transferred to regional feeders, and those partners flying larger and larger airplanes. This is not about supplying pilots to the mainline, this is about trying to entice pilots to work for the feeders without the feeders increasing pay to be competitive in the pilot hiring market.
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All of these schemes exist as a way to draw pilots to the major Airline's regional feeders with with a carrot. Delta, United, etc. are not seriously worried about not having qualified applicants, They are, however, concerned about their feeders' ability to staff their airplanes with cheap labor. United and Delta's business model is absolutely dependent on a feeder network operated at rock bottom prices. This is why you have seen in the last 30 years, more and more "mainline" flying transferred to regional feeders, and those partners flying larger and larger airplanes. This is not about supplying pilots to the mainline, this is about trying to entice pilots to work for the feeders without the feeders increasing pay to be competitive in the pilot hiring market.
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A bit more from GoJet Airlines. Can't see a date on it:
Airline Agreements - Arizona Flight Training Center
Airline Agreements - Arizona Flight Training Center
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BDD,
Here's the XJT example ( I guess it's in effect). Not sure how much variation there is from one carrier to another or who else might be offering it. Poor 'ol XJT needs all the help it can get:
“The tentative deal would allow pilots to count up to 10 years of previous experience at Federal Aviation Regulation Part 121 carriers toward their tenures for purposes of hourly pay according to the specific equipment and status. That experience would also count toward benefits such as the 401(k) retirement match, defined contributions and vacation accrual.”
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...le-credit-plan
Here's the XJT example ( I guess it's in effect). Not sure how much variation there is from one carrier to another or who else might be offering it. Poor 'ol XJT needs all the help it can get:
“The tentative deal would allow pilots to count up to 10 years of previous experience at Federal Aviation Regulation Part 121 carriers toward their tenures for purposes of hourly pay according to the specific equipment and status. That experience would also count toward benefits such as the 401(k) retirement match, defined contributions and vacation accrual.”
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-n...le-credit-plan
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The Army has a good many rotor-wing pilots. Any idea how many are finding their way into the fixed-wing 121 world via programs like this ? I don't hear much said about this source of pilots.
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Amerifight's recent offering. Smell the desperation ? Sweet...
Pilot-Fixed Wing job at Ameriflight, LLC - Captain, B1900, Hiring Bonuses
Pilot-Fixed Wing job at Ameriflight, LLC - Captain, B1900, Hiring Bonuses
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Amerifight's recent offering. Smell the desperation ? Sweet...
Pilot-Fixed Wing job at Ameriflight, LLC - Captain, B1900, Hiring Bonuses
Pilot-Fixed Wing job at Ameriflight, LLC - Captain, B1900, Hiring Bonuses