Climbto350.com for low time pilots, worth it?
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From: Miami
Climbto350.com for low time pilots, worth it?
Hey guys-
I am looking to skip being a CFI and get into really any multi-engine job even if I have to pay for my type rating. I am not looking to do a P2F program as I understand that is bad for the industry and full of scams. My concern is, is it worth it to do Climbto350.com or will there not be anything for a guy with 300TT and 60ME in there? Thanks for any feedback.
I am looking to skip being a CFI and get into really any multi-engine job even if I have to pay for my type rating. I am not looking to do a P2F program as I understand that is bad for the industry and full of scams. My concern is, is it worth it to do Climbto350.com or will there not be anything for a guy with 300TT and 60ME in there? Thanks for any feedback.
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From: Jungle
Very unlikely that you'll find a job advertised for low timers, due to the fact that there are literally thousands of low timers out there and operators won't need to advertise for them. Those kind of jobs are usually by word of mouth, and require you to do the rounds to the various operators in your area and basically door knocking and handing over your CV to them and making you known to them. The first few hundred hours you do are usually the hardest to get. Good luck!
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From: Africa
and thats the problem with aviation, so many people are willing to pay for their own type ratings that it has become normal. You are free to do as you wish, but if you are willing to fork out 10k+ to get a job, than what will be next? What else are you willing to give up? This is just my opinion, if it rubs you the wrong way, then you are probably headed down that road anyway. Put in the hard work and have others pay for your type.
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From: Miami
So you saying that lets say half of the SWA flight crew are lazy because they paid for their type? They didn't work hard to get where they are? Its just a matter of a company looking at it from a financial aspect where they don't know how you are going to preform so they don't want to INVEST that money into you and I think they have some of the happiest crews and customers so they must be doing something right.
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From: Centre of Excellence
FlyinColo:
By the time one is eligible to work at SWA, they already have thousands of hours of experience. They most likely also have over 1,000 hours of TPIC. They have already demonstrated that they are willing to work hard to get where they are. You CLEARLY have not and have little business comparing yourself to a SWA applicant.
You're looking to buy a type as a low time pilot and springboard over other low timers. It most likely won't work, but will open up some interesting interview questions when you are asked about why you purchased a type rating with only 300 hours.
Most pilots don't necessarily agree that buying a 737 type to get on with Southwest is a good thing. Comparing your situation to a SW Airlines applicant at best demonstrates naivete and, at worst, a lack of respect for the profession whose ranks you wish to join as well as those who have given you solid advice.
Scrappy's comment(s) wasn't useless. Demonstrated arrogance will stick like stink on ....
By the time one is eligible to work at SWA, they already have thousands of hours of experience. They most likely also have over 1,000 hours of TPIC. They have already demonstrated that they are willing to work hard to get where they are. You CLEARLY have not and have little business comparing yourself to a SWA applicant.
You're looking to buy a type as a low time pilot and springboard over other low timers. It most likely won't work, but will open up some interesting interview questions when you are asked about why you purchased a type rating with only 300 hours.
Most pilots don't necessarily agree that buying a 737 type to get on with Southwest is a good thing. Comparing your situation to a SW Airlines applicant at best demonstrates naivete and, at worst, a lack of respect for the profession whose ranks you wish to join as well as those who have given you solid advice.
Scrappy's comment(s) wasn't useless. Demonstrated arrogance will stick like stink on ....
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From: AsiaMinor
i too dont consider paying for your own type rating "P2F" . i would rather have the airline pay for it 
but i understand the position of the airline who require the applicant to pay. im sure they have been burned by people who have taken the course and the next month quit for a higher paying job etc... i am 100 % against P2F ,where you have no time on type and an airline requires 500 hours and you go to some airline in timbuktu and pay them 90,000 dollars for the privalege of flying 500 hours for no salary. what airline would pay a salary to FOs if they can get people who are willing to pay ?! about climbto350 . they charge 60 bucks a year, they may have 5000 members, thats 300k for a simple web site which costs little to maintain. you are better off starting your own pilot employment web site than being a pilot ! in fact the owner of climbto350 actually called a place i used to work for (they had a ce500) and inquired how much it would cost to fly his dogs down to his house in costa rica ! try indeed.com
but i understand the position of the airline who require the applicant to pay. im sure they have been burned by people who have taken the course and the next month quit for a higher paying job etc... i am 100 % against P2F ,where you have no time on type and an airline requires 500 hours and you go to some airline in timbuktu and pay them 90,000 dollars for the privalege of flying 500 hours for no salary. what airline would pay a salary to FOs if they can get people who are willing to pay ?! about climbto350 . they charge 60 bucks a year, they may have 5000 members, thats 300k for a simple web site which costs little to maintain. you are better off starting your own pilot employment web site than being a pilot ! in fact the owner of climbto350 actually called a place i used to work for (they had a ce500) and inquired how much it would cost to fly his dogs down to his house in costa rica ! try indeed.com
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From: Around
A 300hr wonder with a type rating, that's cute 
Look, your going to have to get into this industry just like everyone else did, bust your a$$ at any flying job you can get like dropping jumpers, banner, news, pipeline, CFIing, etc.
Get 500ish hours and the corresponding jobs, 1,000hrs and corresponding jobs, then get the next job up
Rinse and repeat.
You'll end up learning the skills and making the connections which will lead you to great opportunities.
Sorry kid, there are no shortcuts.
Look, your going to have to get into this industry just like everyone else did, bust your a$$ at any flying job you can get like dropping jumpers, banner, news, pipeline, CFIing, etc.
Get 500ish hours and the corresponding jobs, 1,000hrs and corresponding jobs, then get the next job up
Rinse and repeat.
You'll end up learning the skills and making the connections which will lead you to great opportunities.
Sorry kid, there are no shortcuts.
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From: B.F.E.
I actuallly used that site to find a job and whip up a resume about 10-12 years ago. Worked great. All kinds of stuff posted on there. I was not particularly low-time at that point but not particularly high-time either. Try it.
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From: Anywere
I had a problem years ago and I told them to hurry up and fix it. I like to get what I pay for or be compensated (and NO, SORRY, no longer cut it, and I tell people how much money is your sorry worth) and the owner threatened me on an email! I was like, who the **** this guy think he is!
Yes you guess it, I did not renew the subscription.
Also they do not clean the advertisements (You will find scams, P2F, Criminals, etc, all kind of things that if you are charging for it you should not list)
Yes you guess it, I did not renew the subscription.
Also they do not clean the advertisements (You will find scams, P2F, Criminals, etc, all kind of things that if you are charging for it you should not list)
