Who knows the regs?
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Who knows the regs?
Okay, sorry this is my first post here...but it's killing me. I've been arguing with some friends about what it's like to be a professional pilot and they say I'm crazy. Maybe I am, but in all my experience...all that I've seen, it is what it is.
So, basically, I'm here to settle a bet. It only applies to US certificated pilots as it deals with US FARs.
My friend (there are a few) is a CFI. He's been doing it for quite awhile and my hand on the bible knows FARs backwards and forwards. Recently it came up in conversation that I (I'm a 121 pilot for over a decade) have no idea what FAR 91.103 is. His jaw dropped and couldn't believe a professional pilot didn't know specific FARS.
I tried to explain that we don't even get issued FAR/AIM books and the specific FAR doesn't really matter to us in a 121 flight deck. We just need to know what the rules are and we learned them way back, years ago, and get updated through our training depts if changes occur.
So, Please help me settle a bet...
As a US 121 pilot (I'll take 135 too if that applies) do you have any idea what the specific FAR 91.103 deals with? (No fair looking it up and posting 'yes')
Thanks again and sorry to bother ya'll with this silliness.
So, basically, I'm here to settle a bet. It only applies to US certificated pilots as it deals with US FARs.
My friend (there are a few) is a CFI. He's been doing it for quite awhile and my hand on the bible knows FARs backwards and forwards. Recently it came up in conversation that I (I'm a 121 pilot for over a decade) have no idea what FAR 91.103 is. His jaw dropped and couldn't believe a professional pilot didn't know specific FARS.
I tried to explain that we don't even get issued FAR/AIM books and the specific FAR doesn't really matter to us in a 121 flight deck. We just need to know what the rules are and we learned them way back, years ago, and get updated through our training depts if changes occur.
So, Please help me settle a bet...
As a US 121 pilot (I'll take 135 too if that applies) do you have any idea what the specific FAR 91.103 deals with? (No fair looking it up and posting 'yes')
Thanks again and sorry to bother ya'll with this silliness.
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From: No. Cal, USA
Relatively new PP-ASEL here. I can tell you what my examiner wanted on the oral test. A weather briefing. Runway lengths and elevations, departing and destination, along with specific aircraft performance for the weather that day. Terrain, alternate airports, TFR's and obstructions along the course of flight. Services provided at destination airport.
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From: Florida
Jesus f'ing Christ! I'm not looking to see how to get the FARs. I'm not interested in what a PPL was asked in his oral....
Look, this thread has had OVER 200 views and only 3 replies..and only 1 of the 3 had anything to do with the actual question. 33% is a failing grade folks. Maybe I worded the OP poorly. I would just like honest answers to how you operate. Don't try to make me happy by pretending you know and don't look up the answer and say you knew it. Just answer truthfully please.
I'd simply like you fine pilot folks out there to simply answer if you knew what FAR 91.103 is about. My position is nobody knows it. We don't NEED to know silly things like the number designator of FARs. We just need to comply with the actual regulation.
Please, once more. Any US 121 pilots out there please just answer. Maybe I'll be proved wrong and everyone flying heavy iron know the individual regs...or, maybe you'll prove me right and knowing minutia like the exact FAR reference for a rule is not necessary to perform our duties.
I'm this forum is anonymous and nobody is going to get in trouble for admitting they don't know what 91.103 is about. It's okay...really. Please post one way or the other.
Look, this thread has had OVER 200 views and only 3 replies..and only 1 of the 3 had anything to do with the actual question. 33% is a failing grade folks. Maybe I worded the OP poorly. I would just like honest answers to how you operate. Don't try to make me happy by pretending you know and don't look up the answer and say you knew it. Just answer truthfully please.
I'd simply like you fine pilot folks out there to simply answer if you knew what FAR 91.103 is about. My position is nobody knows it. We don't NEED to know silly things like the number designator of FARs. We just need to comply with the actual regulation.
Please, once more. Any US 121 pilots out there please just answer. Maybe I'll be proved wrong and everyone flying heavy iron know the individual regs...or, maybe you'll prove me right and knowing minutia like the exact FAR reference for a rule is not necessary to perform our duties.
I'm this forum is anonymous and nobody is going to get in trouble for admitting they don't know what 91.103 is about. It's okay...really. Please post one way or the other.
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"Jesus f'ing Christ! I'm not looking to see how to get the FARs. I'm not interested in what a PPL was asked in his oral...."
CaptainPoA... Please hold on to your horses!
You specifically asked for American pilots to answer your question. Just because there are over 200 views, doesn't mean any of them were American pilots.
No need to get too upset about the answers you received too.
CaptainPoA... Please hold on to your horses!
You specifically asked for American pilots to answer your question. Just because there are over 200 views, doesn't mean any of them were American pilots.
No need to get too upset about the answers you received too.
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From: Florida
Okay, that's a point. I'll let it sit for awhile. I guess it's plausable those 200+ guys were not US pilots.
I'm not cutting slack for the two ding dongs that answered though. I was pretty clear I was looking for US 121 pilots and I get "I just got my PPL...blah blah blah" and "If you would like to find the regs..." NO! I would NOT like to find the regs!!! I was very freaking clear about what I was looking for!!!
IF you are a 121 US pilot you either A: know what 91.103 is, or B: Do not.
Just answer the super simple question. If you can't then move along.
Okay...nice voice now.
Soooooo....any of you 121 US certificated pilots out there know the answer? I'd be super duper appreciative if you simply answer one way or the other. Oh, I have nude pictures* of Cameron Diaz I'll email to anyone who responds...
*i do not haver nude pictures of Cameron Diaz
I'm not cutting slack for the two ding dongs that answered though. I was pretty clear I was looking for US 121 pilots and I get "I just got my PPL...blah blah blah" and "If you would like to find the regs..." NO! I would NOT like to find the regs!!! I was very freaking clear about what I was looking for!!!
IF you are a 121 US pilot you either A: know what 91.103 is, or B: Do not.
Just answer the super simple question. If you can't then move along.
Okay...nice voice now.
Soooooo....any of you 121 US certificated pilots out there know the answer? I'd be super duper appreciative if you simply answer one way or the other. Oh, I have nude pictures* of Cameron Diaz I'll email to anyone who responds...
*i do not haver nude pictures of Cameron Diaz
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From: Florida
Did you miss the part where the question applies to 121 US certificated pilots? Are you that? If not then STFU.
This was a bad idea. Thought I'd get a few people to cast their opinions, instead I get retards telling me they aren't a 121 pilot and others offering where I can look up regulation. sheesh...
To those that actually met the prerequisites of the worlds most simple question (US certificated pilot flying for a 121 carrier) thank you.
To those that responded without the qualifications to answer or with a suggestion where I can find something any pilot can find...thank you. Your efforts are appreciated...really.
This was a bad idea. Thought I'd get a few people to cast their opinions, instead I get retards telling me they aren't a 121 pilot and others offering where I can look up regulation. sheesh...
To those that actually met the prerequisites of the worlds most simple question (US certificated pilot flying for a 121 carrier) thank you.
To those that responded without the qualifications to answer or with a suggestion where I can find something any pilot can find...thank you. Your efforts are appreciated...really.
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From: Florida
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I'm not looking for a ******* far. I'm looking to see how many folks out there flying 121 know what far 91.103 is!!!!!!
I know what it is. There is no reason to ask my cp anything.
I'm not a jerk...you're a retard.
I know what it is. There is no reason to ask my cp anything.
I'm not a jerk...you're a retard.
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From: Florida
Say, I was wondering...any blonde women have an opinion on hotdog stands?
Grumpyoldgeek: Well, I'm a dude and i have red hair...but I think hotdog stands should be illegal. They are a blight on our.....blah blah blah.
WHO CARES!!!! I specifically asked for NOT YOU! I wanted US certified 121 pilots. Are you any of that??? And now I'm the jerk? Really? Maybe you have some blame here...for not keeping your piehole shut.
Grumpyoldgeek: Well, I'm a dude and i have red hair...but I think hotdog stands should be illegal. They are a blight on our.....blah blah blah.
WHO CARES!!!! I specifically asked for NOT YOU! I wanted US certified 121 pilots. Are you any of that??? And now I'm the jerk? Really? Maybe you have some blame here...for not keeping your piehole shut.
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And now there's almost 400 views and I have crap results. What is wrong with the world? It was such an easy question...I asked so nicely...retards answered and now I'm the jerk and nobodies ever going to answer the question....
Why's the world so unfair? Was I mean? Sure...but I asked a very simple question. A 5 year old could follow it. Yet grown men f'ed it all up and now it'll never be answered.
Whatever....
Why's the world so unfair? Was I mean? Sure...but I asked a very simple question. A 5 year old could follow it. Yet grown men f'ed it all up and now it'll never be answered.
Whatever....
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Yeah, I know...this thread is nuked. I'm not sure where it went off the tracks. I thought I asked a pretty straight forward question. Between ignoreing 300'ish views and no comments and respondants answering who were not in the requested data group.
Whatever. It's a sock puppet account anyway. I thought I could swoop in and get a simple question answered and it turns out this forum is not the place to get pilots to follow a simple request.
Take care people too afraid to speak, and people too retarded to keep quiet. Don't bother to respond now. This is my last post under this user name. Later.
BTW, I'm sure most of you are just fine. I might not have posted either. But 300! I would have hopped for at least 10% response. Oh well.
Whatever. It's a sock puppet account anyway. I thought I could swoop in and get a simple question answered and it turns out this forum is not the place to get pilots to follow a simple request.
Take care people too afraid to speak, and people too retarded to keep quiet. Don't bother to respond now. This is my last post under this user name. Later.
BTW, I'm sure most of you are just fine. I might not have posted either. But 300! I would have hopped for at least 10% response. Oh well.
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I have held a private licence with instrument rating for over a decade and often fly my 172 in total IMC.
The answer is yes, I know what part 91.103 is. Recall like mine comes with experience.
You should really follow grumpyoldgeeks advice and have a sit down chat with your Chief Pilot. He or she will be able to walk you through it I´m sure. You might want to consider working on your personal flight discipline so that this sort of knowledge vacuum doesn´t impact negatively on your career.
The answer is yes, I know what part 91.103 is. Recall like mine comes with experience.
You should really follow grumpyoldgeeks advice and have a sit down chat with your Chief Pilot. He or she will be able to walk you through it I´m sure. You might want to consider working on your personal flight discipline so that this sort of knowledge vacuum doesn´t impact negatively on your career.