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USA Jet
Does anyone have details on working for USA Jet out of KYIP? I've found a bunch of info on line, but I'm curious as to how much the Falcon pilots actually fly. I've heard everything from "There is all the overtime you want" to "I only flew 3 hours last month" so I am trying to get the real story.
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Here's a few snippets from other website you might find helpful.
If I come across anything else helpful I'll post it. You really should consider forking out the ten bucks though, those other sites are both very good for finding US info.
"Another class in July, 4 DA-20 F/O's, we got about a dozen in the pool to chose from. Decision will made to fill the class around mid-June. It looks like DA-20 Captain will go to around one year with the company and DC-9 F/O to about six months. DC-9 Captain is still at 7 years. Lots of flying right now, lots breaking guarentee."
" USA Jet adds second aircraft pay
If you fly a second 135 airplane at USA Jet, all flying in the second airplane is paid at over guarantee. So a DA-20 Captain is assigned to fly the King Air 90, and flies 12 hours in the DA-20 and 12 hours in the King Air, he will get 67 hours of pay for that month. Not bad considering our average DA-20 Captain makes around $100/hr"
" USA Jet adds second aircraft pay
If you fly a second 135 airplane at USA Jet, all flying in the second airplane is paid at over guarantee. So a DA-20 Captain is assigned to fly the King Air 90, and flies 12 hours in the DA-20 and 12 hours in the King Air, he will get 67 hours of pay for that month. Not bad considering our average DA-20 Captain makes around $100/hr"
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i spent the day at KYIP and another around. there was not much activity on the USA Jet side...same with the abandoned DC8 and props on the cargo side...mainly corporate and flight training coming from EMU. i have a couple pix of the area
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From: Ypsilanti, Michigan, USA
Good jobs available at USA Jet
USA Jet is a decent job. Flying hours per month vary between 10 to 80 with the average about 50. Good place to learn to be a real jet pilot. Training is excellent and pilot corps is a good croud. Worth looking into.
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From: Down south, USA.
Dynasty22:
Years ago, Zantop Int'l Airlines operated various fleets through YIP: the Convair 640, Lockheed Electra (L-188) and DC-8s. I jumpseated in '84 on a Zantop Electra from there to ORD, in order to connect there with MVA for groundschool in the Quad-Cities on the Shorts 330/360.
Based upon what I read, Zantop was a decent operation, and never understood why they closed the business down. A number of pilots seemed to be working there as a career. One of their Convair Captains came over here.
Years ago, Zantop Int'l Airlines operated various fleets through YIP: the Convair 640, Lockheed Electra (L-188) and DC-8s. I jumpseated in '84 on a Zantop Electra from there to ORD, in order to connect there with MVA for groundschool in the Quad-Cities on the Shorts 330/360.
Based upon what I read, Zantop was a decent operation, and never understood why they closed the business down. A number of pilots seemed to be working there as a career. One of their Convair Captains came over here.
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From: KGRB, but on the road about 1/2 the time.
Hi!
If U want a bunch of info on USA Jet, PM me.
U SHOULD join both flightinfo and propilotworld. Pay the $10. It is worth getting a decent job.
A perfect example of this is one guy just started training at Compass, but he had no idea Northwest would be hiring now, and he really wanted to go to NWA. If he had been on either flightinfo OR propilotworld, and spent even a little bit of time researching, he would've known a minimum of 6 months ago that NWA would be hiring now, and he never would've taken the job at Compass. He thought the ONLY way to get to NWA was to go to Compass and flow through.
A USA Jet guy flies an average of 50 hours a month. If you want to sell your days back, you can easily fly more. If you want to take all your days off (ie: NOT sell them back) you'll fly about 50.
It is a good job, but it's not for everyone. The worst parts are if you're flying freight, you're on a pager 24/7 and you may have to be at work in 25 minutes.
Good Luck!
cliff
DC-9 FO (former Falcon 20 Capt & FO)
YIP
If U want a bunch of info on USA Jet, PM me.
U SHOULD join both flightinfo and propilotworld. Pay the $10. It is worth getting a decent job.
A perfect example of this is one guy just started training at Compass, but he had no idea Northwest would be hiring now, and he really wanted to go to NWA. If he had been on either flightinfo OR propilotworld, and spent even a little bit of time researching, he would've known a minimum of 6 months ago that NWA would be hiring now, and he never would've taken the job at Compass. He thought the ONLY way to get to NWA was to go to Compass and flow through.
A USA Jet guy flies an average of 50 hours a month. If you want to sell your days back, you can easily fly more. If you want to take all your days off (ie: NOT sell them back) you'll fly about 50.
It is a good job, but it's not for everyone. The worst parts are if you're flying freight, you're on a pager 24/7 and you may have to be at work in 25 minutes.
Good Luck!
cliff
DC-9 FO (former Falcon 20 Capt & FO)
YIP
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From: Up yer nose, again.
i spent the day at KYIP and another around. there was not much activity on the USA Jet side...same with the abandoned DC8 and props on the cargo side...mainly corporate and flight training coming from EMU. i have a couple pix of the area
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From: USA
Flew into YIP the other day, and it looked to me that most of their DC9 fleet were parted out; or are at least sitting engine-less. The Falcon's didn't look very healthly either, but I don't know how many they had to begin with. 
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From: USA
Correct Me USA Jet Pilots
Correct me if I'm wrong, USA JET has the only Freight Falcons that are RVSM Certified?
Also, as far as On-Demand Freight Flying is concerned USA Jet is by far the best outfit.
Money is great
Sked is Very good. (Hard Days OFF)
Pilot Moral is good.
MX is good.
Plus they gotta flow thru career plan to the 9's. (Not really sure how it works,tho)
But YIP as a place to live is not GOOD! Really run down kinda town.
Unfortunately with the 15 mins call out you gotta be pretty close to KYIP.
Also, not a member of PPW but Flt. Info is a good resource to get the low down on various company's
Just my .02 cents
Also, as far as On-Demand Freight Flying is concerned USA Jet is by far the best outfit.
Money is great
Sked is Very good. (Hard Days OFF)
Pilot Moral is good.
MX is good.
Plus they gotta flow thru career plan to the 9's. (Not really sure how it works,tho)
But YIP as a place to live is not GOOD! Really run down kinda town.
Unfortunately with the 15 mins call out you gotta be pretty close to KYIP.
Also, not a member of PPW but Flt. Info is a good resource to get the low down on various company's
Just my .02 cents
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From: KGRB, but on the road about 1/2 the time.
Hi!
IFL has RVSM Falcon 20s that also have Garrett engines. They are AWESOME!
The USAJet falcons have RVSM and GPSs. They are getting all GPSs with color moving maps (KLN-94).
The callout, if you're flying freight, is 25". U get a 25" callout about 25% of the time-the rest of the time it's longer-even up to a couple of days notice.
If you're flying PAX reserve, it is a 2 hour callout. If you are a regular PAX pilot flying the schedule there is no callout. During NCAA season there is a 6-month schedule, and the rest of the time it's monthly-mostly 6 on/4 off.
USA Jet is planning on adding MD-8xs and/or 737-400s or better down the road. The MDs may come quick, the 737s at least 18 mos away-more likely 30 mos.
10 DC-9s flying now and 6 Falcons. Used to have 12/12. Also: 1 PAX Falcon 20, 1 PAX Lear, and 1 King Air. They are used to shuttle the -9 PAX crews back and forth, and for DV flights.
Oh, they also operate 3 -9s, 1 G-III, 1 Lear-35 and 2 Twin Otters out of ABQ. Separate operation-gov't contract. -9s are changing to 737s soon.
cliff
GRB
IFL has RVSM Falcon 20s that also have Garrett engines. They are AWESOME!
The USAJet falcons have RVSM and GPSs. They are getting all GPSs with color moving maps (KLN-94).
The callout, if you're flying freight, is 25". U get a 25" callout about 25% of the time-the rest of the time it's longer-even up to a couple of days notice.
If you're flying PAX reserve, it is a 2 hour callout. If you are a regular PAX pilot flying the schedule there is no callout. During NCAA season there is a 6-month schedule, and the rest of the time it's monthly-mostly 6 on/4 off.
USA Jet is planning on adding MD-8xs and/or 737-400s or better down the road. The MDs may come quick, the 737s at least 18 mos away-more likely 30 mos.
10 DC-9s flying now and 6 Falcons. Used to have 12/12. Also: 1 PAX Falcon 20, 1 PAX Lear, and 1 King Air. They are used to shuttle the -9 PAX crews back and forth, and for DV flights.
Oh, they also operate 3 -9s, 1 G-III, 1 Lear-35 and 2 Twin Otters out of ABQ. Separate operation-gov't contract. -9s are changing to 737s soon.
cliff
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I don't keep up with USAJet, by from what I've seen, as recent as September 23rd, are a whole bunch of DC-9's sitting grouped on the southern end of their ramp, without engines. A few of the operational DC-9's appear to be passenger -30's, but the freight -10's seem parked for what I'd describe as "long-term" storage. But again, this was my view from the taxiway and I have no 'official" information as to what their plans are, or how they are doing. 
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From: KGRB, but on the road about 1/2 the time.
Hi!
Currently 6 -9 freighters and 4 PAX. 6 Falcon freighters.
USA Jet is keeping 2 -9 freighters and 2 Falcon freighters as backup. The rest of the old -9/Falcon freighters are being parted out and sold as scrap.
C U!
cliff
ABQ
Covering a -9 FO slot until the new hire(s) get online here in ABQ.
Currently 6 -9 freighters and 4 PAX. 6 Falcon freighters.
USA Jet is keeping 2 -9 freighters and 2 Falcon freighters as backup. The rest of the old -9/Falcon freighters are being parted out and sold as scrap.
C U!
cliff
ABQ
Covering a -9 FO slot until the new hire(s) get online here in ABQ.
