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Oasis 2nd June 2023 08:42

What would be a typical BA EF pilot roster in terms of days off per month? How much reserve?

Thanks in advance.

vpcaptain 19th June 2023 11:32

Hi can anyone shed light on a typical Eurofly LGW roster for a captain, and can you explain the roster codes RSD - reserve day ? And how that works ?, PRSV ?, AVA ? TDO, ODO ? TS, FT, WR, and LB.

currently flying up to 99 hours in 28 days 850-900 a year so would that be similar ?

also any info on holidays, stby duration currently 12 hours and call-out time as currently have to be at aircraft in 1hour from phone call.

appreciate if you need to PM details thanks

737 Jockey 1st July 2023 07:09

Anyone who recently attended the BA EF assessment day care to share info? Particularly interested to hear about the NTR DEC tech exam level/content. TIA

Skyview05 16th November 2023 10:03

Hey everyone. I am too after some info on the online/in person assessment day. Would be great if anyone could share any insight. Thanks a lot!

GOLDYMITTENS 22nd November 2023 23:43

Can someone share the Video Interview questions for BAEF pleasee. Thankyouu

clarkeysntfc 23rd November 2023 07:54

What’s the starting salary for cadets in BA EF, for reference?

Potatos_69 28th November 2023 06:55


Originally Posted by clarkeysntfc (Post 11544617)
What’s the starting salary for cadets in BA EF, for reference?

Doing some rough math's from an MOA that was leaked a year or so ago, you will max out absolutely around 60k flying 900 hours in year 1

edit: as an FO

EGMC 28th November 2023 09:13

DEC's going to LGW on the A320- is the sim being done on A320 as well? seems like nothing available to book in last few weeks, atm prob not likely then until after xmas???, which seems strange as up until now the vibe has been 'we need to get people in the seats asap'!
If anyone has done the sim stage and doesn't mind sharing I would be most grateful for a DM

peter2023griffin 13th December 2023 13:35

Hi vpcaptain,
Typical roster is 6-2, maybe 5-2 if you're lucky, same for FO's. However I do have to say it is Flexi roster so it could be anything. Scheduling agreement states you will get a minimum of 10 days off and really that is all you will get... You will also probably be on a minimum 850-900 hours per year. Theres a constant battle with crewing as the scheduling agreement is written so poorly, everyone interprets it in their own way :)

The company claims there is a bidding process for the roster - based off seniority - but the most senior captains aren't getting what they request so the system doesn't work well at all. Probably because the company is chronically under-crewed. Management have been promising fixed pattern roster since the conception of Euroflyer but there still have nothing even close to show for it (and how can they when they are scheduling pilots with lovely 6-2 rosters).

As a junior DEC you will be flying every weekend and won't have any say on your roster but that's the seniority system for you, there would be the same issue in mainline BA.

They will tell you that winters will be quiet but most pilots are on the minimum 10 days off regardless and the rest of the days that you wanted off get filled up with reserve (normally 6 days of reserve per month).

RSD - rest day
PRSV - reserve - the evening before this day, by 19:00, they assign you either a flight/home standby/airport standby for the following day
AVA - available day - the evening before this day, by 20:00, they assign you either a flight or a rest day
ODO - owed day off - if you work into your day off (unlike every other airline) you don't get any payment but you can get that day off back at a "mutually agreed time" - spoiler alert, its never when you want it
LDO: leave day off - wrap around day added to leave
TDO: Trump day off - four days per year that you can request OFF in advance (in pairs only - can't be attached).
RDW: Rest day working - basically a day off payment or overtime payment. 300 pounds for FO's & 525 pounds for captains (basically not worth it after tax) however they are asking for Overtime constantly so if desperate there are opportunities for it.

For the home standby - it lasts typically 11 hours and you have 2 hours to get to the airport (very generous actually).
Airport standby typically lasts 6 hours. There are a couple of couches in the crew room if you want to listen to cabin crew gossip for 6 hours on your 5am airport standby, otherwise there's the terminal where you can hang out with the paxs. No rest room, quiet room or anything of the sort.

It really is a proper low cost carrier painted in BA's colour scheme except its even worse pay and lifestyle conditions than low cost carriers :ugh:

Positives:
- crew are lovely and you do have nice days-out
- home every night (no night-stops)
- 95% of the time it's 2 sector days
- If you can wait a few years there's always mainline LHR opportunities down the road

Hope this helps

Chauderon 14th December 2023 10:04

Wearing the same uniform to fly the same aircraft from the same city as mainline - and being treated and paid like this.

How did BALPA let IAG get away with this?

hunterboy 14th December 2023 10:19

How do you think they let them get away with it? Ba didn’t have a short haul base at LGW when Euroflyer was formed. If nobody had accepted the T&C’s , I assume BA would have offered more.

Chauderon 14th December 2023 10:39


Originally Posted by hunterboy (Post 11556380)
How do you think they let them get away with it? Ba didn’t have a short haul base at LGW when Euroflyer was formed. If nobody had accepted the T&C’s , I assume BA would have offered more.

Exactly, lack of backbone supporting the race to the bottom by the flag carrier

EGMC 9th January 2024 21:18

320 Sim
 
Is anybody able to answer a few questions via DM
much appreciated for any help.
Cheers

Prob30Tempo TSRA 10th January 2024 07:23


Originally Posted by Chauderon (Post 11556388)
Exactly, lack of backbone supporting the race to the bottom by the flag carrier

I think we’ve been here before . That backbone would see some people at the job centre whilst others take the offer anyway .

BA keeps experimenting with low cost . Didn’t it have a great outfit with “ Go “? Is EF some management trainee scheme ? , they try low cost once a decade and then fold it or sell it

320LGW 5th February 2024 16:42

Hi EGMC - did you manage to get any information relating to the DEC sim? Cheers!

QUOTE=EGMC;11572593]Is anybody able to answer a few questions via DM
much appreciated for any help.
Cheers[/QUOTE]

JackyP 13th February 2024 19:20

Hi recently passed the selection. Does anyone know the holdpool waiting times at the moment?

320LGW 13th February 2024 19:22


Originally Posted by JackyP (Post 11596475)
Hi recently passed the selection. Does anyone know the holdpool waiting times at the moment?

Hi JackyP - was that for a Captain or FO position? How long did you have to wait between assessment and result? Thanks.

Avidpilot2023 22nd February 2024 21:24

Hello all!
I see that some have stated the EF assessment is the same as mainline BA, but I’m unfamiliar with what that entails!

please could someone shed some light on the process? Via pm if that works, I’ve been invited for the online video questions so would love to prepare accordingly.
cheers!

BentleyTheDog 15th March 2024 13:12

Has anyone had a start date recently? If so how long were you swimming for? Thanks

Captain Spam Can 11th June 2024 14:48

The BA Euroflyer Direct entry CAPTAIN assessment. From what gather is Eagle test, interview/group exercise, Sim. Have they ditched the pen/paper maths and verbal reasoning test? If so is it online as part of the eagle test or is the Eagle test just that ATC game (descending, dealing with failures, clicking on fuel tanks)? Thanks.


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