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Is PPJN dead?
Is the job pool PPJN dead. When I open the website there are no job updates since the 2th of november.
Anyone knows what has happened with PPJN? |
Anyone know what's happened to Jethros?
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PPJN updates are dependent on people sharing information. And quite honestly we've become a bit pathetic compared to 10 years ago in this regard. We keep our cards close to our chests not sharing the latest recruitment news or Ts and Cs even when it doesn't impact our own opportunities.
Having said that, the site owner does not update sometimes for months at a time. Eventually you will see a bulk update of many airlines happening at the same time. Jethro's moved to his own server. Update your bookmarks: https://jethroseu.co.uk/ |
Originally Posted by El Capitano
(Post 11158726)
Is the job pool PPJN dead. When I open the website there are no job updates since the 2th of november.
Anyone knows what has happened with PPJN? Sad day, |
Quite frustrating indeed, this website was of great help
Do we know why it is down ? I have built websites before If PPJN is not coming back, I can try making a new one providing the same service, if that is of interest to anyone ? |
Originally Posted by cockpitdoor
(Post 11186399)
Quite frustrating indeed, this website was of great help
Do we know why it is down ? I have built websites before If PPJN is not coming back, I can try making a new one providing the same service, if that is of interest to anyone ? it always have been a great tool to figure out what is on offer in other airlines. |
pilotbase.com are doing this right now. It's been a few months in the making. I think the PPJN owner might have advised them ahead of time (feels like it)
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It's a shame, ppjn is offline and there's no backup for it? Had a look at pilotbase, but it's not offering the full database as PPJN. Lots of valuable info on it, eventhough not always updated. Any web gurus able to rebuild the same? Perhaps the moderator of pprune can add a section where pilots can share info concerning TC's? tia
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Originally Posted by mark_one
(Post 11187095)
It's a shame, ppjn is offline and there's no backup for it?
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Originally Posted by RogueOne
(Post 11187134)
Wayback Machine :-)
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I have had a look into pilotbase, you have to register to see the salary info and it is not organized as well as it could be
I will start building a new website tomorrow, similar to PJN with few design improvements Should be able to make it online by Wednesday, I will keep you posted |
I've been using PPJN since it was launched. With all due respect, 50-60% of what was posted on PPJN was either emotionally charged nonsense or 7+ years old. PPJN gave the illusion it had a lot of current and up to date information but it was mostly out of date and/or inaccurate given the many different types of contracts and agency employers. To create the platform/website is the easy part. Getting people to hand over information is the hard part. Good luck though! If the pilotbase.com guy is reading this I agree with the above. He will likely fail in his mission too if he's expecting people to register prior to divulging confidential details about what's in their contract. Even PPJN's anonymous posting platform couldn't achieve this in recent years.
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Originally Posted by mark_one
(Post 11187249)
Tried a cache search, no luck. Any thoughts?
https://web.archive.org/web/20220205...bsnetwork.com/ |
Thanks RogueOne, This helps al lot. Do you see any chance to keep this alive and going in a different format for the pilot community? If I were a web guru i would offer to rebuild the databasa, but unfortunately not.
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Originally Posted by mark_one
(Post 11188446)
Thanks RogueOne, This helps al lot. Do you see any chance to keep this alive and going in a different format for the pilot community? If I were a web guru i would offer to rebuild the databasa, but unfortunately not.
The beauty of PPJN was that it was a text based list. Easy to navigate, no complicated menus.. a Ronseal website |
Yes still working on it gents, took a bit of delay with recent events, but it will be up at some point this weekend
We can definitely source back some data through wayback machine. Although for many airlines, info were missing or dated, so I would rather not automate this process and deal with this on an individual airline basis I will add a very simple airline info submission form, so people can engage easily and share data with no wasting of time |
Seems to be back online again today.
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PPJN back online, but most recent submission is still the 2nd of November...
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Originally Posted by Flying Clog
(Post 11190358)
PPJN back online, but most recent submission is still the 2nd of November...
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Is the new PPJN (pilotbase) paying options only?
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Originally Posted by Pilotbase
(Post 11191738)
Hi All,
As some of you have spotted, we're trying to build a database of pilot Ts and Cs at Pilotbase. We only launched the 'airline profiles' a few weeks ago and the information is coming in from various sources, but obviously it's a bit of a slow process. PPJN is a resource I've used in the past, but as you've mentioned, a lot of the information is outdated or incorrect. The database is large, but very little of it is accurate. Also, for those thinking of scraping PPJN data into a new site, that's against their terms and conditions and there's a chance you could be in a bit of legal hot water. cockpitdoor We're always trying to get better, and would love to hear your feedback about which areas you're finding not to be well organised, and any suggestions for improvements. |
Originally Posted by Brian Pern
(Post 11205990)
I have just joined and tried to look at more than one airline profile, the website has stopped me asking me to upgrade, which starts at £4.99 per month and allows me to look at 5 company profiles....if I pay you £6.99 per month then I can look at any. Your website is in its infancy, it won't last if you insist on charging. PPJN will still be more valuable.
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It costs money and time to run a website, and if ads don't pay for it the people wanting said information have to pay for it. Having said that, there is no way I would pay for what they offer right now.
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I could not agree more guys
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So it seems Pilotbase is dead before it has even started ...
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Absolutely tragic that this sort resource provided for free by members is being charged for - (with nothing gained for those volunteering it)
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Originally Posted by RogueOne
(Post 11217397)
Absolutely tragic that this sort resource provided for free by members is being charged for - (with nothing gained for those volunteering it)
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PPJN is still dead :(
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Looks like it's alive and kicking!
..& being updated with new info. |
Great news! PPJN is back!!
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Great news! PPJN is back!!
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No update since 19th Sep
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It is death again?
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It is ripe for a take over.
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It's been dead for years.
Most company details haven't been updated since pre 2020. |
Originally Posted by LOWI
(Post 11807785)
It's been dead for years.
Most company details haven't been updated since pre 2020. |
Originally Posted by LOWI
(Post 11807785)
It's been dead for years.
Most company details haven't been updated since pre 2020. |
Originally Posted by Stuntpiloot
(Post 11815066)
So where do we go now?
If you haven't taken a look, try this one: https://www.latestpilotjobs.com/jobs...ilot_jobs.html |
Originally Posted by bafanguy
(Post 11815490)
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Originally Posted by Nikker
(Post 11815714)
The whole point of PJN was to check T&C. LPJ doesn't have any numbers. Also it's full of useless agencies.
True enough I suppose. But isn't an agency the route to many jobs and the details about those jobs...like T & C ? |
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