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Is PPJN dead?

Old 20th Dec 2021, 14:32
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Is PPJN dead?

Is the job pool PPJN dead. When I open the website there are no job updates since the 2th of november.
Anyone knows what has happened with PPJN?
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Old 20th Dec 2021, 21:42
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Anyone know what's happened to Jethros?
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Old 21st Dec 2021, 05:25
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PPJN updates are dependent on people sharing information. And quite honestly we've become a bit pathetic compared to 10 years ago in this regard. We keep our cards close to our chests not sharing the latest recruitment news or Ts and Cs even when it doesn't impact our own opportunities.

Having said that, the site owner does not update sometimes for months at a time. Eventually you will see a bulk update of many airlines happening at the same time.

Jethro's moved to his own server. Update your bookmarks:
https://jethroseu.co.uk/

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Old 7th Feb 2022, 18:05
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Originally Posted by El Capitano View Post
Is the job pool PPJN dead. When I open the website there are no job updates since the 2th of november.
Anyone knows what has happened with PPJN?
Looks like the website is down now.

Sad day,
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Old 19th Feb 2022, 00:56
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Quite frustrating indeed, this website was of great help
Do we know why it is down ?

I have built websites before
If PPJN is not coming back, I can try making a new one providing the same service, if that is of interest to anyone ?
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Old 19th Feb 2022, 05:49
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Originally Posted by cockpitdoor View Post
Quite frustrating indeed, this website was of great help
Do we know why it is down ?

I have built websites before
If PPJN is not coming back, I can try making a new one providing the same service, if that is of interest to anyone ?
yes!

it always have been a great tool to figure out what is on offer in other airlines.
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Old 19th Feb 2022, 08:09
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pilotbase.com are doing this right now. It's been a few months in the making. I think the PPJN owner might have advised them ahead of time (feels like it)
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Old 20th Feb 2022, 14:39
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It's a shame, ppjn is offline and there's no backup for it? Had a look at pilotbase, but it's not offering the full database as PPJN. Lots of valuable info on it, eventhough not always updated. Any web gurus able to rebuild the same? Perhaps the moderator of PPRuNe can add a section where pilots can share info concerning TC's? tia
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Old 20th Feb 2022, 16:08
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Originally Posted by mark_one View Post
It's a shame, ppjn is offline and there's no backup for it?
Wayback Machine :-)
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Old 20th Feb 2022, 21:08
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Originally Posted by RogueOne View Post
Wayback Machine :-)
Tried a cache search, no luck. Any thoughts?
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Old 21st Feb 2022, 01:36
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I have had a look into pilotbase, you have to register to see the salary info and it is not organized as well as it could be

I will start building a new website tomorrow, similar to PJN with few design improvements
Should be able to make it online by Wednesday, I will keep you posted
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Old 21st Feb 2022, 08:15
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I've been using PPJN since it was launched. With all due respect, 50-60% of what was posted on PPJN was either emotionally charged nonsense or 7+ years old. PPJN gave the illusion it had a lot of current and up to date information but it was mostly out of date and/or inaccurate given the many different types of contracts and agency employers. To create the platform/website is the easy part. Getting people to hand over information is the hard part. Good luck though! If the pilotbase.com guy is reading this I agree with the above. He will likely fail in his mission too if he's expecting people to register prior to divulging confidential details about what's in their contract. Even PPJN's anonymous posting platform couldn't achieve this in recent years.
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Old 21st Feb 2022, 10:05
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Originally Posted by mark_one View Post
Tried a cache search, no luck. Any thoughts?
Website snapshot from Feb:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220205...bsnetwork.com/
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Old 22nd Feb 2022, 21:44
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Thanks RogueOne, This helps al lot. Do you see any chance to keep this alive and going in a different format for the pilot community? If I were a web guru i would offer to rebuild the databasa, but unfortunately not.
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Old 23rd Feb 2022, 13:34
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Originally Posted by mark_one View Post
Thanks RogueOne, This helps al lot. Do you see any chance to keep this alive and going in a different format for the pilot community? If I were a web guru i would offer to rebuild the databasa, but unfortunately not.
cockpitdoor is on it I think. But for now, the waybackmachine has archived salaries etc which is useful.

The beauty of PPJN was that it was a text based list. Easy to navigate, no complicated menus.. a Ronseal website
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Old 25th Feb 2022, 01:34
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Yes still working on it gents, took a bit of delay with recent events, but it will be up at some point this weekend

We can definitely source back some data through wayback machine. Although for many airlines, info were missing or dated, so I would rather not automate this process and deal with this on an individual airline basis

I will add a very simple airline info submission form, so people can engage easily and share data with no wasting of time
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Old 25th Feb 2022, 14:15
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Seems to be back online again today.
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Old 25th Feb 2022, 17:23
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PPJN back online, but most recent submission is still the 2nd of November...
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 11:33
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Originally Posted by Flying Clog View Post
PPJN back online, but most recent submission is still the 2nd of November...
Lets get it updated!!
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Old 26th Mar 2022, 08:56
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Is the new PPJN (pilotbase) paying options only?
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