Where do you work ? Equipment / seat and year ? How much did you make ?

Always a good thread I think for contract comparison. Let’s all make sure we keep raising the bar for each other. Happy New Years to all my colleagues and friends around the world !

American LCC / A320 / FO year 3 / $155.000. This includes my DC (retirement contribution from the company and per diem).

Disclaimer : I picked up zero premium trips last years and drop / trade trips to where I have 17/19 days off a month. My health is worth more than more money.

They’re only good if you say where you work. You even ask that as your first question but then go in to not say where you work.

as for €40k gross, :{​​​​​​​

Exactly, I assume that’s either Wizz or Lauda perhaps... Wizz for example, have bases in a host of Eastern European countries undergoing a difficult transition to the western world.

Take Romania for one. The average annual wage is €11,580. €40,000 (one of the earlier posters salary) is 3.5 times the average wage. On the other hand, the average wage in the US is €42,000, therefore the American FO earns roughly 3.2 times the average wage. As much as the Germans will try to convince you, Europe isn’t a federal state. Salaries and conditions are different in different countries. If you don’t like your conditions, you’re free to look elsewhere for work (unless going forward, you’re British but I’ll leave that one there).

Standards of living differ vastly across Europe and obviously, salaries will mirror that. $155,000 will get you a lot more in Mississippi than $155,000 will in California or DC!

The 8 sectors a day trope another die hard posted is frankly rubbish. I work for a European LCC carrier and preference 2 sector days (as a relatively junior captain). I’ll probably do 10-15 days of 3 sectors or more a year - the same is true for the FOs at my outfit with the same bidding presence. A massive difference too is that pilots at the European LCCs for the large part get to spend every night at home with their families. That’s worth a heck of a lot. Anecdotally of course, but I don’t think that’s true for the majority of US legacy and LCC pilots I’ve spoken to on my travels.

US DC-9 car parts hauler. 3rd year FO, upgraded to captain in October. $119k gross. Probably around 300 hours for the year. Average 5 nights away from home per month. Had Christmas and New Years off every year I’ve been here. Not looking for anything better.

What a difference between USA and Europe..... :sad:

Let’s hope the EU manages to imitate the US aviation scene within not too many years.

oh well, I might as well try fitting pigs with wings.

RHS A320 Tarnished British Flag carrier. Single Runway Operation
Total Gross: About £80K including allowances. (1 week of unpaid leave is included in this figure). Year 4.
Hours flown in 2019: just under 700
Take Home monthly average £4800 (after 6% pension contribution, company pays 15%)

I commute but still on average I manage at least 20 nights a month in my own bed, pretty unique situation I would say and I’m very fortunate. This company takes an absolute caning from most people in all areas (rightly in some) but overall I’m happy enough with my lot, I’d struggle to find a short haul commuter (FO wise) in the UK right now who’s got a better overall deal. The company is clearly not what it was but still provides options to suit you, which I have exploited.

In all likelihood I should get a long haul move in 2020/21 which would be a pay rise, reduce my tax burden as my pay rises (due to dipping under the UK 90 night maximum and able to be domiciled for tax in my little crown dependency), reduce my commuting cost footprint but on the flip side introduce jet lag and give me less nights in my own bed (unless I go part time). Hence it’s not a straightforward decision anymore whether to do it. But I don’t really fancy flying the 737 Max in a couple of years..

Year 6/7 FO, longhaul at Big Airlines. Average about £5-£5.5k net a month. Company pays 15% into pension. No real bonus scheme any more. Will not take shorthaul command as I cannot afford the pay cut nor do I wish to work that much harder.

Chief Willy: 100% spot on. I am a few years ahead of you on the pay scale. P1 Airbus and my take home is the same as yours. 840hrs

VA RHS year 3 pay scale , £81,866 , fixed 750 hr limit per year
787-9 , max 4 trips per month , been averaging 2 lately due engine issues which has been great,
take home is around £4500 with 6% (15% from company) pension conts... full private healthcare etc..

allowances now world wide rate so not as good as before but inline with other airlines , prob save around $450 per month on a 4 trip month .

Cons : wish we had more routes
Management is a pain
wish the day off incentive was better

Pros : good crowd to work with
lots of days off
still sociable down route

by no means is it perfect but i find it better than Big Air

All the americans have little to brag, because we all remember not many years ago when a regional FO was making less than 20k USD gross. Less than the receptionist mentioned above.
They make more in good times, but when s**t hits the fan, furloughs and pay cuts hit much harder on that side of the pond.
And I would rather be unemployed in good old europe, compared to the states.

It doesn’t matter whether it provides a decent living or not, it’s about reward for responsibility and for your expertise.

LHS ME A380 €222.920 net, this is inclusive of all allowances / pension contributions etc etc.

Flown just shy of 400 hours but spent quite some time in the box.

Overall fairly happy with the work / life balance but this is largely due to my personal (job) circumstances.

TUI Airways: Captain, £180,000 per year (P60), high 800 hours in that year.

Lets lobby the government to join the top 0.1%, who hold 56% of the nation’s wealth, yet pay less tax as a proportion of their wealth than anyone else. Perhaps that is worth considering when we vent our frustrations...

EU LCC LHS A320.

Part time 7/7 70% contract since April.

400 flying hours in 2019.

Total gross for the year €140000
Net €86000

We missed out on our bonus this year though.

TUI UK, LHS none trainer 75/76, 15 off a month, £165k plus 26k company pension contribution. 800 hours/year. 3-5 nights away.

I’d guess he/she is based on the west coast and does a lot of transcons. Not hard to imagine with their route structure.

Thats pretty accurate.

Year one in commercial longhaul, having finished 12 years as a military aircraft commander.

Over a £20k increase in salary (including allowances) as a Year one FO. 10k company pension, free healthcare, cycle-to-work, talk of salary sacrifice car finance, plus amazing staff travel perks on a huge network, great workforce and couldn’t be happier. Pilots Jobs network has accurate salary figures.

Been a busy year though. Will finish on 900 hours.

what company ?

UK Turboprop
400hrs 2019
RHS
£28k (no extras)

Useless when you don’t mention who you work for or what you actually make.